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re: Hundreds of mysterious Stonehenge like structures found in Amazon

Posted on 2/7/17 at 9:09 am to
Posted by TeddyPadillac
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Posted on 2/7/17 at 9:09 am to
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When it comes to something that has an impact on global weather and climate, I think it becomes more than a local issue.


In what way does cutting trees down in Brazil affect the global climate?

Did you feel the effects when the idiots on Haiti turned their lush island into a dirt field?
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
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Posted on 2/7/17 at 9:19 am to
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In what way does cutting trees down in Brazil affect the global climate?


Are you asking how deforestation of the Amazon Rainforest affects the globe? Seriously?

It is a forest that is about 2.1 million square miles.



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This post was edited on 2/7/17 at 9:23 am
Posted by Fat and Happy
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Posted on 2/7/17 at 9:20 am to
I find it interesting that the immediate use of deforestation shows up.

So basically, that area wasn't a forest at one point and the stuff was built. Then plants grew around the area and eventually covered them up
Posted by tigerite
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 2/7/17 at 9:31 am to
Though I'm generally against the use of drones, this is a very very significant discovery. I've always felt and the evidence supports that South America is the main hub of ancient alien travel. I hope that this will be researched very quickly.

Posted by AUCE05
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Posted on 2/7/17 at 9:34 am to
People used to think smoking is a freedom, and individuals should have the right to damage their body. Then we learned second hand smoke effects everyone. Same thing with clear cutting forest. It is an archaic practice, and should be illegal. Old forest filter our air, which effects every human on the planet.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 2/7/17 at 9:39 am to
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Are you asking how deforestation of the Amazon Rainforest affects the globe? Seriously?


Yeah. I am. You want to show me how it affects the global ecosystem and climate other than showing me how big the Amazon rainforest is?


here let me help

Thanks Africa and South America.

The WORLD has lost 135 million Hectares of forests over that 20 year span. The Amazon lost 1.4 million dating back to 1970, so it accounts for less than 1% of the total forests lost on the globe.
Look out now, we won't have any oxygen to breathe now.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 2/7/17 at 9:47 am to
It is about the ability of a rainforest to act as a "carbon sink" and absorb carbon dioxide. With an ecosystem like that, there tends to be a tipping point where the forest can no longer sustain itself and die off. So ok, they're cutting down less trees than they were some years ago, but they're still cutting down, which means the Amazon is still losing the ability to sustain itself and act as that sink.

Another argument is that ~half of the world's plants and animals exist in rainforests. Who knows the benefit the life in these ecosystems can provide for us.
This post was edited on 2/7/17 at 9:51 am
Posted by TeddyPadillac
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Posted on 2/7/17 at 10:01 am to
I'm not trying to advocate for cutting forests down like morons. It should be done responsibly.

But don't act like it affects you from a global climate perspective, or will affect you, here in America, at any point in the distant future, b/c it won't.

Crazy shite has happened to this earth for millions of years. Every living organism is affected by it at some point. Some adapt and live on, some die off. It's been that way for a very long time. Humans arent the first ones to cause the changing of an ecosystem on this earth, and they won't be the last.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 2/7/17 at 10:11 am to
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But don't act like it affects you from a global climate perspective, or will affect you, here in America, at any point in the distant future, b/c it won't.


Well, I like to look out for the future. I don't care if I won't experience any affects directly in my life, even though I might, we don't know. I don't want to leave a shitty world for my future kids.

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Crazy shite has happened to this earth for millions of years. Every living organism is affected by it at some point. Some adapt and live on, some die off. It's been that way for a very long time.


Yeah, but that doesn't give us an excuse when we can stop ourselves from doing it.

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Humans arent the first ones to cause the changing of an ecosystem on this earth, and they won't be the last.


Yeah, but we are the first ones who can actually do something about it.
This post was edited on 2/7/17 at 10:15 am
Posted by League Champs
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Posted on 2/7/17 at 10:18 am to
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People are cutting down the rain forest, which affects all of us.

And yet, they are finding multiple structures built in what is now a 'rain forest'?

My oh my, how did the Earth survive, when that area wasn't a 'rain forest', and was very habitable?
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 2/7/17 at 10:20 am to
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Well, I like to look out for the future. I don't care if I won't experience any affects directly in my life, even though I might, we don't know. I don't want to leave a shitty world for my future kids.


Good for you, you won't, b/c you live in America. You can't force the other 5 billion people on this earth to do what you want on their land. Well you could I guess, but I doubt youre willing to literally fight for that.

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Yeah, but that doesn't give us an excuse when we can stop ourselves from doing it.


no it doesn't, but it also doesn't mean the world is going to end.


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Yeah, but we are the first ones who can actually do something about it.


and most of us do, like all of us in north America, Europe, asia, and Australia. blame the Africans, again, for not giving a shite about anyone or anything
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 2/7/17 at 10:23 am to
quote:

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People are cutting down the rain forest, which affects all of us.

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And yet, they are finding multiple structures built in what is now a 'rain forest'?

My oh my, how did the Earth survive, when that area wasn't a 'rain forest', and was very habitable?



talk about jumping into a thread late.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51389 posts
Posted on 2/7/17 at 10:26 am to
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Good for you, you won't, b/c you live in America. You can't force the other 5 billion people on this earth to do what you want on their land. Well you could I guess, but I doubt youre willing to literally fight for that.


I never said force. But, raising awareness, educating, and helping to foster situations where people won't have to resort to something like habitat destruction as the only way to make a living is fine.

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no it doesn't, but it also doesn't mean the world is going to end.


Never said it was going to end, but I don't want to see quality suffer.

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and most of us do, like all of us in north America, Europe, asia, and Australia. blame the Africans, again, for not giving a shite about anyone or anything


Africa is indeed a clusterfrick.
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 2/7/17 at 11:04 am to
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So basically, that area wasn't a forest at one point and the stuff was built. Then plants grew around the area and eventually covered them up



No, according to the article, it was a forest and the people who built these structures only made small clearings where they built them, which barely put even the smallest dent in the overall forest.
Posted by High C
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Posted on 2/7/17 at 11:13 am to
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tigerite


Obvious yogagirl alter.
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 2/7/17 at 11:31 am to
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Deforestation has declined nearly 80% in the last decade in Brazil. Tell me how that is impacting your life.


I'm not a treehugger, but it affects everyone. The Amazon is called "the lungs of earth" because of the massive amount of carbon dioxide it consumes. Less amazon, more CO is not a good combination for anyone.

I understand that that region is trying to establish an economy grounded in agriculture...but that want/need needs to be washed against the impact for everyone else. (Same goes for China and India and their obscene levels of pollution and CO production.)

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In August, NASA released a picture of the Amazon rainforest burning as seen from the ISS. Not only does this decimate the habitat of millions of species in the region, but it is also aggravating climate change. Over the last 40 years, 20% of the rainforest has been cleared for timber and to make room for farm land.
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
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Posted on 2/7/17 at 11:33 am to
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So basically, that area wasn't a forest at one point and the stuff was built


That's not what it's saying. It's saying that stuff was built thousands of years ago, and the forest it was built among continued to grow.
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 2/7/17 at 11:52 am to
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And yet, they are finding multiple structures built in what is now a 'rain forest'?

My oh my, how did the Earth survive, when that area wasn't a 'rain forest', and was very habitable?


In the battle of man v Earth, my money is on Earth. Earth is gonna kick our arse...eventually. But the Sun might just get us first.

We basically just need to get by long enough until we have the means to build massive interstellar cruisers so we can all leave the poors behind to fend for themselves with the mess we left them with.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/7/17 at 11:54 am to
my only response to this is, "guys, it's time to get really high"
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
31314 posts
Posted on 2/7/17 at 11:55 am to
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You want to show me how it affects the global ecosystem and climate other than showing me how big the Amazon rainforest is?


Um, it's pretty straight forward. We know that humans produce CO, which is bad. Trees filter CO, which is good. Less trees is bad. We also know how much CO the Amazon filters from the ecosystem...it's an unreal amount, but CO is still increasing (which, as noted, is bad).

Are you purposely trying to be obtuse?
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