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re: House Bill 745 - State Grants for private school tuition, what are your local thoughts?
Posted on 4/15/24 at 11:42 am to HangmanPage1
Posted on 4/15/24 at 11:42 am to HangmanPage1
If educating 1 student in Louisiana costs the taxpayers 12-15k (which is what it is) and instead they send out 5k “vouchers” for private, somebody tell me how that is not a win for the state?
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Posted on 4/15/24 at 11:48 am to Cosmo
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Its not a handout
But it is
Posted on 4/15/24 at 11:56 am to HangmanPage1
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I’ve seen so many poor rural schools still have great schools, because they don’t let animals run wild.
Take away $500mm from the public school system and see how this still works
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Throwing money at issues doesn’t work
Taking money away doesn’t do anything positive.
Posted on 4/15/24 at 12:14 pm to High C
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If you move enough roaches around, everything becomes infested.
yes, well this is uninformed and quite ignorant.
Posted on 4/15/24 at 12:19 pm to HangmanPage1
i would just like to know how they are going to pay for it.
Posted on 4/15/24 at 12:19 pm to Cosmo
quote:Most individuals taxes that go to public schools don't come close to what will be handed out. $7,500 per year per student for five years? If you have 3 kids that'll amount to $112,500. That's a huge handout. Free shite.
Its not a handout
A huge chunk of your taxes pay for schools
This post was edited on 4/15/24 at 12:20 pm
Posted on 4/15/24 at 12:23 pm to blueboxer1119
quote:Because the student gets a $5,000 handout and the public school still gets the 12-15k for that student. You don't really think they're going to carve out that money goes to each handout, do you? There is a baseline budget for any public school to remain open regardless of the number if students who attend.
If educating 1 student in Louisiana costs the taxpayers 12-15k (which is what it is) and instead they send out 5k “vouchers” for private, somebody tell me how that is not a win for the state?
This post was edited on 4/15/24 at 12:31 pm
Posted on 4/15/24 at 12:23 pm to HangmanPage1
As it stands now most private schools have limited amounts of space if any available other that starting at pre-k and 8th. So I don’t think there will be an overwhelming rush. I do think tuition will go up quicker and also on the flip side public schools will lose funding if head counts go down. Also I was told by a teacher that at this point the bugs aren’t worked out and as of today parents would get the money with no strings attached. No receipts for tuition needed at the point or school supplies, tutoring, etc. I feel it will be basically a free handout that will be blown in ways that doesn’t benefit the child if this is true.
Posted on 4/15/24 at 12:31 pm to FreddieMac
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Sure, but if my child is in EBR and wants to attend a Livingston Parish school, then the funding show follow the student to Livingston Parish. I am not sure why only private schools should benefit from this concept. That is what competition is all about.
That's easy enough to do with federal and state money, but what about local money?
Livingston now has to educate your child at a loss, because while they are getting more fed and state money, they are not getting any more local sales / property tax money for your child.
Posted on 4/15/24 at 12:33 pm to LSUFanHouston
Is there any real debate in the legislature about this bill? It passed the House and has few or vague rules applied to parents on spending the money?
Posted on 4/15/24 at 12:34 pm to blueboxer1119
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If educating 1 student in Louisiana costs the taxpayers 12-15k (which is what it is) and instead they send out 5k “vouchers” for private, somebody tell me how that is not a win for the state?
Right now BlueBoxer Jr is in first grade at St Matthew's, which goes up to grade 7. The state is paying ZERO for the education of BlueBoxer Jr.
In three years, when Junior is in 4th grade at St Matthews, the state will strt to pay $5K for the education of Junior.
This is now $5,000 in new spending for the state.
Posted on 4/15/24 at 12:36 pm to Jake88
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Is there any real debate in the legislature about this bill? It passed the House and has few or vague rules applied to parents on spending the money?
The House right now, led by Landry, are big into "parents know best, so there can be no fraud" mentality, plus, this is a big red meat issue for therr base.
There may be some debat in the Senate.
Posted on 4/15/24 at 12:38 pm to Duckhammer_77
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They are talking about how they have no idea how this will be paid for...but if you take an example from previous playbooks: get it passed and funded for one year, then it's political suicide for anyone to claw it back down the road and the state is forced to cut other things or raise taxes to deal with it.
This is why the republicans in this state piss me off to no end. You want this program, nut up and identify how to pay for it.
I'll say it again... except for maybe 4 or 5 legislators, at most, we have no fiscal conservatives in this state.
Posted on 4/15/24 at 12:58 pm to FreddieMac
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If you move enough roaches around, everything becomes infested.
yes, well this is uninformed and quite ignorant.
Ignorant in what way? The worst students will have the same opportunity to move around as the best students.
I haven’t read the bill personally, but I’ve heard a few people raise the issue of homeschooling. As they understand it, if parents say that they are homeschooling, the money goes to them to pay for a homeschool program. I’m not aware of anything that will keep these people from pocketing the money and leaving their kid(s) with no educational opportunity at all. If I’m incorrect in this, someone set me straight.
Posted on 4/15/24 at 1:01 pm to HangmanPage1
Schools don’t have to accept the grants. There were some available years ago when my children were in school. The parents caused an uproar bc we sacrificed to pay for our children to attend. Grants were not accepted. Schools don’t want this type of student or parent.
Posted on 4/15/24 at 1:02 pm to High C
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I’m not aware of anything that will keep these people from pocketing the money and leaving their kid(s) with no educational opportunity at all. If I’m incorrect in this, someone set me straight.
You are not incorrect. They call this "parental choice".
Believing that all parents will make the best choice is just as dumb as believing welfare queens, if just helped out a little more, will suddenly get a job and become productive.
This post was edited on 4/15/24 at 1:03 pm
Posted on 4/15/24 at 1:02 pm to Oilfieldbiology
quote:shut down government ran schools
Why don’t we fix the problem we have
Posted on 4/15/24 at 1:09 pm to blueboxer1119
quote:BECAUSE THE $12-15k YOU CITE WILL NOT DECREASE A DIME.
If educating 1 student in Louisiana costs the taxpayers 12-15k (which is what it is) and instead they send out 5k “vouchers” for private, somebody tell me how that is not a win for the state?
How do you not understand?
Posted on 4/15/24 at 1:14 pm to LSUFanHouston
There is nothing you can do to stop this
It will soon be signed into law.
And then, good luck trying to repeal it.
It will soon be signed into law.
And then, good luck trying to repeal it.
Posted on 4/15/24 at 1:14 pm to LSUFanHouston
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the republicans
The Dems do it too on social programs...they both use the same tactics
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