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Germany claims pressure drops of Nord Stream were a targeted attack

Posted on 9/26/22 at 6:02 pm
Posted by bikerack
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Posted on 9/26/22 at 6:02 pm
You'll have to translate the article...

https://www.tagesspiegel.de/wirtschaft/druckabfall-in-beiden-leitungen-gemeldet-nord-stream-pipelines-moglicherweise-durch-anschlage-beschadigt-8687140.html

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The Nord Stream pipelines may have been damaged by targeted attacks and leaked as a result.

After a drastic pressure loss occurred in one of the two lines of Nord Stream 2 during the night on Monday and a leak was found in Danish territorial waters, a spokesman for the double pipeline Nord Stream 1 also reported a “severe pressure drop” on Monday evening ' recorded on both lines. The situation is now being investigated.

Research into the causes has been initiated in both cases, and the security authorities at federal level have taken on the cases. "Forensic results" cannot be expected within a short time, since the seabed has to be reached.

However, due to the timing, the three pipelines affected and the severe pressure losses in Nord Stream 1, which also indicate a large leak, the worst is expected. "We can't imagine a scenario that isn't a targeted attack," said a person familiar with the federal and federal government's assessment. It went on to say: "Everything speaks against a coincidence."

Such a suspected attack on the seabed is anything but trivial, it has to be carried out with special forces, for example navy divers, or a submarine, according to the circles informed about the first assessment of the situation.

With regard to the authorship of the alleged attacks, two main options are being discussed. First, according to initial speculation, Ukrainian or Ukraine-affiliated forces could be responsible. With the Nord Stream pipelines temporarily switched off, gas deliveries from Russia to Germany and Central Europe would only be possible via the Yamal connection via Poland or the Ukrainian pipeline network.

Second, exactly the same scenario, but as a so-called "false flag" operation by Russia, is a possible explanation for the leaks in the pipelines. This could fuel additional uncertainty and the gas price could possibly be driven up again in order to exacerbate the European energy price crisis, which had recently eased minimally.


Posted by Sput
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Posted on 9/26/22 at 6:03 pm to
Freeze Fritz I don’t give a shitz
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 9/26/22 at 6:03 pm to
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Posted on 9/26/22 at 6:04 pm to
Maybe they shouldn't have let themselves be dependent on teh ebil Putin?
Posted by CabtainStabbin
Member since Aug 2022
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Posted on 9/26/22 at 6:05 pm to
Sounds like they need to build more windmills and shite.
Posted by Warfox
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Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 9/26/22 at 6:16 pm to


And they had the hubristic audacity to LAUGH at President Trump.

The Germans may be an intelligent people, but the current leadership certainly isn’t very wise allowing their greed(payoffs for Nordstream) and their hatred of Trump to cloud their judgment.

Fools.
Posted by USMCguy121
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Posted on 9/26/22 at 6:20 pm to
Trump famously warned them and they infamously laughed. frick them.
Posted by BlackPawnMartyr
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Posted on 9/26/22 at 6:20 pm to
Posted by TBoy
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Posted on 9/26/22 at 6:29 pm to
quote:

The Germans may be an intelligent people, but the current leadership certainly isn’t very wise allowing their greed(payoffs for Nordstream) and their hatred of Trump to cloud their judgment.


It may have nothing to do with Trump. Tsar Nicholas II of Russia and Kaiser Wilhelm II of Germany were first cousins. The German ruling class and the Russian ruling class have always been close. The Germans just underestimated Russia’s ability to screw everything up.
Posted by GREENHEAD22
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Posted on 9/26/22 at 6:42 pm to
Are they surprised? What did they think was going to happen?
Posted by Evolve
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Posted on 9/26/22 at 6:43 pm to
quote:

Sounds like they need to build more windmills and shite.


Posted by Strannix
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Posted on 9/26/22 at 6:45 pm to
Thought they went green?
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 9/26/22 at 6:45 pm to
quote:

It may have nothing to do with Trump. Tsar Nicholas II of Russia and Kaiser Wilhelm II of Germany were first cousins. The German ruling class and the Russian ruling class have always been close. The Germans just underestimated Russia’s ability to screw everything up.
Posted by JackieTreehorn
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Posted on 9/26/22 at 6:46 pm to
Only a matter of time until the Krauts have to be bitch slapped again.
Posted by red sox fan 13
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Posted on 9/26/22 at 6:48 pm to
It’s just baffling to me that Germany is a country that has a reputation for intelligent people and one that champions human rights and clean energy, and then they turn around and be energy dependent on fricking Russia. Anyone with a brain could see this would backfire.
Posted by Scruffy
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Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 9/26/22 at 6:48 pm to
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It may have nothing to do with Trump. Tsar Nicholas II of Russia and Kaiser Wilhelm II of Germany were first cousins.
Are you seriously name dropping the Kaiser and Tsar in 2022?


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The German ruling class and the Russian ruling class have always been close. The Germans just underestimated Russia’s ability to screw everything up.
Well, since it was targeted, it doesn’t look like the Russians screwed up.

Stop defending the moronic Europeans for hitching their horse to Russia so thoroughly.

You can call them out like Trump did and still maintain your progressive credentials.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 9/26/22 at 6:49 pm to
It's going to be fun to watch the police arresting people for setting their thermostats to 53 this winter
Posted by WinnPtiger
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 9/26/22 at 6:51 pm to
quote:

It may have nothing to do with Trump. Tsar Nicholas II of Russia and Kaiser Wilhelm II of Germany were first cousins. The German ruling class and the Russian ruling class have always been close. The Germans just underestimated Russia’s ability to screw everything up.


which has frick all to do with one of the most technologically advanced nations to ever exist not being able to produce their own energy

in fact they’re not even trying
Posted by red sox fan 13
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Posted on 9/26/22 at 6:53 pm to
The Romanovs had a lot of connections to German nobles
Posted by Coach Buzzcut
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Posted on 9/26/22 at 7:04 pm to
Gonna be a cold winter - better stock up on hot cocoa and blankets… but wait how do you heat the cocoa?
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