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First case reported of "CTE" without history of head trauma

Posted on 3/4/17 at 10:44 am
Posted by tigerskin
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Posted on 3/4/17 at 10:44 am
Looks like we have a long way to go to understand this issue


"Obviously brain trauma and repetitive brain trauma can result in cognitive impairment and possibly contribute to a neurodegenerative disease," says Dr. Hazrati. "But since we've seen cases of brains that experienced multiple concussions but don't have CTE, and now a brain with CTE but absence of any head trauma, there is indication that we should be cautious about labelling trauma as the only possible cause of CTE because it looks to be more complicated than that."

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This post was edited on 3/4/17 at 10:46 am
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 3/4/17 at 10:46 am to
What's cte?
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
40287 posts
Posted on 3/4/17 at 10:48 am to
Chronic traumatic encephalopathy.
Posted by Scooba
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 3/4/17 at 10:58 am to
What is chronic traumatic encephalopathy?
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
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Posted on 3/4/17 at 11:03 am to
That is the changes in the brain that have been seen in all the football players that had the mental problems, suicide etc. Until now we have said, see this evidence of brain damage is because all of the concussions and smaller hits that the football players received.

This throws a curveball. This person has the same changes in their brain as the football players but he had no known history of head trauma.
Posted by MrSpock
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 3/4/17 at 11:10 am to
Guess we can't call it CTE anymore.
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
40287 posts
Posted on 3/4/17 at 11:11 am to
True
Posted by Tyga Woods
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Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 3/4/17 at 11:12 am to
quote:

What's cte?


It's where old football players that squandered all of their money start looking for some easy cash. Like when a poor person pulls out in front of an 18 wheeler or falls down at walmart.
Posted by rantfan
new iberia la
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 3/4/17 at 11:15 am to
I'm wondering if any supplements, steroid or HGH were used by this person.
This post was edited on 3/4/17 at 11:16 am
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/4/17 at 11:23 am to
Did you not see the movie Concussion?

If not, you should.

Any parent that has kids who play sports needs to watch that movie.

Posted by Jizzy08
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 3/4/17 at 11:28 am to
First douche comment of the thread. You should be proud!
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 3/4/17 at 11:30 am to
quote:

I'm wondering if any supplements, steroid or HGH were used by this person.



...very interesting question
Posted by Tyga Woods
South Central Jupiter Island, FL
Member since Sep 2016
30123 posts
Posted on 3/4/17 at 11:34 am to
quote:

First douche comment of the thread. You should be proud!




I am! You should really go pay your redheaded wife some attention. She started a thread this morning looking for the bbc.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
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Posted on 3/4/17 at 11:42 am to
NFL tries to stop payment on settlement check.
Posted by Sparkplug#1
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 3/4/17 at 11:45 am to
What if they had head trauma but the head trauma was so bad they didn't remember having head trauma? I'm calling BS.
Posted by t00f
Not where you think I am
Member since Jul 2016
89998 posts
Posted on 3/4/17 at 11:46 am to
quote:


First case reported of "CTE" without history of head trauma
Did you not see the movie Concussion?

If not, you should.


Great movie, must see to understand CTE and how the NFL screwed the pooch and tried to bury the findings.
Posted by Jizzy08
Member since Aug 2008
11228 posts
Posted on 3/4/17 at 11:47 am to
I don't get the reference.

Sorry if I feel a little sympathy for players I grew up watching on Sundays that ended up committing suicide because they were so fricked up in the head, leaving behind fatherless children and widows. Yea, its because they lost all their money.
Posted by airfernando
Member since Oct 2015
15248 posts
Posted on 3/4/17 at 11:52 am to
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now a brain with CTE but absence of any head trauma
they have absolutely no way to verify that. That person could have banged his or her head at 2 years old.
Posted by AlceeFortier
Member since Dec 2016
1795 posts
Posted on 3/4/17 at 11:55 am to
Hence this is why we know medicine is not an exact science and the knowledge evolves with time. What is thought true today may not be so tomorrow.
Posted by Tyga Woods
South Central Jupiter Island, FL
Member since Sep 2016
30123 posts
Posted on 3/4/17 at 11:57 am to
quote:

Sorry if I feel a little sympathy for players I grew up watching on Sundays that ended up committing suicide because they were so fricked up in the head, leaving behind fatherless children and widows. Yea, its because they lost all their money.


I have a close friend that did the same. I do feel sympathy. But there is no definitive proof that cte is caused just by head trauma. According to your analogy, all people fricked up in the head have cte. Kurt Cobain must've had cte then. Maybe from the loud music? Again, I have sympathy for anyone struggling with something, but there isn't enough proof of what exactly causes cte
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