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re: Father (Not Guilty) of killing drunk driver who killed his sons.Update
Posted on 8/18/14 at 7:20 pm to fr33manator
Posted on 8/18/14 at 7:20 pm to fr33manator
quote:I disagree and so does the law of the land.
Unlike the state, he actually had a rightful claim to the blood.
This isn't the wild west or warlord frontier. We have a civilization with a system in place to handle law. Any time it is taken into one's own hands and ignored, the ideals of justice for the system are further eroded.
And finally, revenge is never noble or justified, even if you are in the right, if one is not also willing to accept the consequences.
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Posted on 8/18/14 at 7:20 pm to Tigerlaff
quote:
Manslaughter
That's what I'd think. But I took criminal law in 1986. Been a while.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 7:20 pm to TH03
I wonder how many people saying he should be convicted of murder actually have children? Let the man walk.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 7:21 pm to genro
quote:
We have a civilization with a system in place to handle law. Any time it is taken into one's own hands and ignored, the ideals of justice for the system are further eroded.
He's right.
Eta. I have two children. The victim was someone's child. The victim had a child.
This post was edited on 8/18/14 at 7:22 pm
Posted on 8/18/14 at 7:21 pm to Kellydown
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I wonder how many people saying he should be convicted of murder actually have children? Let the man walk.
this is the dumbest thing I've ever read on this site.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 7:22 pm to TH03
Obviously you do not have children
Posted on 8/18/14 at 7:22 pm to JudgeHolden
quote:
That's what I'd think. But I took criminal law in 1986. Been a while.
If the state had the gun and residue, manslaughter would be my case for the defense.
As is, I'm sticking with telling the state "convince this rural Texas jury that he's guilty after his kids were killed and you have no hard evidence."
Posted on 8/18/14 at 7:22 pm to Kellydown
quote:
Obviously you do not have children
because that matters.
having children doesn't excuse you from first degree murder.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 7:23 pm to TH03
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this is the dumbest thing I've ever read on this site.
Now that's a bold damn statement there for anyone who has been here more than a few hours. He'll, I've personally posted dumber things today.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 7:23 pm to JudgeHolden
quote:Which victim?
He's right.
Eta. I have two children. The victim was someone's child. The victim had a child.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 7:25 pm to genro
are you implying the guy who got murdered isn't a victim?
if anything, the premeditated revenge murder is far worse than the drunken accidental killing. that guy didn't set out that night actively trying to kill 2 kids. the father went out with every intention of killing the man and he did.
if anything, the premeditated revenge murder is far worse than the drunken accidental killing. that guy didn't set out that night actively trying to kill 2 kids. the father went out with every intention of killing the man and he did.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 7:26 pm to Tiger Ryno
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applaud this man
That's some dumb shite right there. You don't applaud someone that murders someone on the street. Not when Your dumb arse has your kids out at midnight pushing a fricking truck down the road because you have run out of gas. I bet they didn't even have the common sense to have the the fricking flashers on. I hope he goes to fricking jail
Posted on 8/18/14 at 7:29 pm to bencoleman
Posted on 8/18/14 at 7:30 pm to TH03
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if anything, the premeditated revenge murder is far worse than the drunken accidental killing. that guy didn't set out that night actively trying to kill 2 kids.
Yea, well he did. Two fricking innocent kids. They didn't have a choice. The driver did have a choice. I'm not condoning the father's actions, but the real victims here were the innocent kids, not the drunk dumbass. We have laws and a justice system for a reason, but I'm glad that he's dead.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 7:31 pm to TH03
quote:
having children doesn't excuse you from first degree murder.
Oh, is that what this is now?
Posted on 8/18/14 at 7:31 pm to bencoleman
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You don't applaud someone that murders someone on the street. Not when Your dumb arse has your kids out at midnight pushing a fricking truck down the road because you have run out of gas.
Some of yall are truly deranged if you think that having kids pushing the car basically merits the death penalty for them.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 7:32 pm to Tigerlaff
He should be convicted and go to prison. But, in a similar situation, I too would have murdered a drunk driver who had killed my two sons. It's a crime I'd be willing to pay the price for.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 7:32 pm to REG861
he did not ACTIVELY set out to kill 2 kids.
you could argue he passively did because he got behind the wheel drunk knowing what could happen, but he did not intentionally kill them. arguing otherwise is stupid.
he is a victim because instead of being given his due process as afforded to EVERY US citizen by the bill of rights, he was gunned down by a vengeful father who decided to take the law into his own hands.
you could argue he passively did because he got behind the wheel drunk knowing what could happen, but he did not intentionally kill them. arguing otherwise is stupid.
he is a victim because instead of being given his due process as afforded to EVERY US citizen by the bill of rights, he was gunned down by a vengeful father who decided to take the law into his own hands.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 7:34 pm to TH03
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he did not ACTIVELY set out to kill 2 kids.
That doesn't fricking matter, he did. If he was still alive, do you think he'd say "hey, sorry about your kids, but I didn't mean to do it!" I'm sure the kids' mother is consoled by the fact that he didn't ACTIVELY set out to kill them.
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you could argue he passively did because he got behind the wheel drunk knowing what could happen, but he did not intentionally kill them. arguing otherwise is stupid.
I couldnt give a flying frick what his intentions were. He ACTIVELY was the driver when he plowed into them drunk. He wasn't PASSIVELY driving, was he? (unless he was so drunk he was asleep at the wheel).
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he is a victim because instead of being given his due process as afforded to EVERY US citizen by the bill of rights, he was gunned down by a vengeful father who decided to take the law into his own hands.
Send his widow a Hallmark card for me
This post was edited on 8/18/14 at 7:36 pm
Posted on 8/18/14 at 7:35 pm to Tigerlaff
Texas doesn't have first degree murder, so he's just charged with murder. I doubt it fits the criteria for capital murder since the guy wasn't a cop or anything.
it was definitely premeditated and if found guilty, he will deserve the punishment.
it was definitely premeditated and if found guilty, he will deserve the punishment.
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