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re: Do You Agree Corporal Punishment (Spanking) Is Barbaric When You Think About It?

Posted on 1/8/16 at 12:33 pm to
Posted by The Pirate King
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Posted on 1/8/16 at 12:33 pm to
I think this is a troll thread, but I'll bite:

Firm smack on the butt helps: beating the shite out of your kids does nothing.

Some of my high school friends would tell stories about how their parents legitimately hit them with closed fists and all. That's a bit much.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
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Posted on 1/8/16 at 12:36 pm to
Spanking your kids is so blue collar.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
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Posted on 1/8/16 at 12:44 pm to
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I got my arse whipped alot as a kid.
quote:

I deserved it every single time
obviously it wasn't very effective.
Posted by Mootsman
Charlotte, NC
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/8/16 at 12:44 pm to
I would rather take a spanking than have to sit in my room with no tv or video games as a child. After my parents beat me with the belt they usually felt bad afterwards and I could use that as leverage.
Posted by Rickety Cricket
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Posted on 1/8/16 at 12:48 pm to
You sound like a sissy city boy. My pa have me a whoopin just like his daddy did to him. All my kin folk knew how to take a whoopin and we all came out good men because of it.
Posted by Poncho
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Posted on 1/8/16 at 12:54 pm to
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Someone with your intelligence shouldn't have kids.


Guarantee I have more degrees than you. Probably 3 times as many...
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/8/16 at 12:54 pm to
The most powerful reinforcer is one of a positive nature

But before you think you know where I am going with this, you need to consider that it is very empowering for your child to screw up in a big way, yet suffer no 'painful' consequences for them

A parent has to 'paddle' their child at least once, for them to appreciate the threat of future consequences. The threat in and of itself, is often enough. So parents who have never paddled their child, are essentially positively reinforcing their childs negative behavior. Think of it as getting pulled over for speeding. Which is more likely to get your attention, getting a warning or being issued a ticket?

Beating your child, however, is a whole other topic
Posted by Corch Urban Myers
Columbus, OH
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 1/8/16 at 1:00 pm to
Who knew that the affluenza teen's dad posted on here?
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
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Posted on 1/8/16 at 1:02 pm to
That literally made no sense.
Posted by RobbBobb
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Posted on 1/8/16 at 1:30 pm to
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That literally made no sense.

WTF??

Damn dude, makes perfect sense

If your kid misbehaves, and all he gets is a stern warning (warning of what exactly?), then hes more likely to repeat that behavior, because he felt ZERO negative consequences, so you inadvertently positively reinforced his poor decisions

The ticket scenario was the perfect analogy. Pulling away from the traffic stop, you are either cussing the cop, or texting and calling all your friends celebrating that you didn't get punished

Yeah, you got stopped (negative event), but which consequence led to a positive reaction from you after?
Posted by The Cool No 9
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Posted on 1/8/16 at 1:34 pm to
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but also teaches the child that violence/force/power is a valid means of education or reaching an end
so you live in some crazy alternate world where it isn't?
This post was edited on 1/8/16 at 1:36 pm
Posted by TheDeathValley
New Orleans, LA
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 1/8/16 at 1:35 pm to
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He's not trolling. He's really this dumb.



Pretty bad either way....
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 1/8/16 at 1:40 pm to
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Guarantee I have more degrees than you. Probably 3 times as many...





Typical. All the book learning you could ever want but not even an ounce of common sense. I think that's one of the biggest problems with today's younger generation. They think that college will teach there everything they'll ever need to know about life.
Posted by UGATiger26
Jacksonville, FL
Member since Dec 2009
9049 posts
Posted on 1/8/16 at 1:53 pm to
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The two most violent and misbehaved children I've ever witnessed are the offspring of two parents who refuse to lay a hand on them, and instead try reasoning with them every time they misbehave.

Like I said, anecdotal evidence


Like I said, I'll take my anecdotal evidence and personal life experiences over your research any day.

Where's the research that tells me how to parallel park? I've been parallel parking for 15 years, and I'm pretty damn good at it. But since I haven't read the research, I might not be doing it right.

My parents spanked (not beat...let's just get that out of the way) me. They spanked my brothers. We're all well-adjusted, productive, and responsible individuals. None of us have aggression problems like your research apparently suggests that we should have.

In addition, I am at the point of my life where I am friends with lots of parents of young kids. Again, ALL the kids who are well-behaved are spanked. In general, the kids who are not well-behaved are not spanked.

Sorry that my life disagrees with your research.


This post was edited on 1/8/16 at 1:54 pm
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
One State Solution
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 1/8/16 at 2:03 pm to
It goes both ways.
Older people often completely dismiss legitimate research and facts as "fancy book learnin'"
This post was edited on 1/8/16 at 2:03 pm
Posted by sugar71
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Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 1/8/16 at 2:17 pm to
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Think abut it; who hits a child when they don't respond just the way the parent expects?





It does seem to me that by beating kids with a belt ,switch, paddle we are teaching them tonresolve issues through violence.

I' m not totally opposed to a smack on the butt of an terribly unruly toddler who insists on putting objects in electrical outlets( among other things)....?





Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 1/8/16 at 2:27 pm to

I can see where some forms of corporeal punishment are acceptable. Child rearing does require some form of maintaining control.

However, I believe that it is naive to use corporeal as a means to justify consequences will come to those who do wrong. At some point in life, everyone learns that in most cases bad things are done to people and there is NEVER any repercussions. That is just the way society is structured.

The concept of a spanking is punishment for doing something wrong only works in controlled system of a parent/guardian. Outside of this system, it serves as nothing more that a pretext of how one should behave.
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20446 posts
Posted on 1/8/16 at 2:27 pm to
And not a lick of common sense.
Posted by fishfighter
RIP
Member since Apr 2008
40026 posts
Posted on 1/8/16 at 2:34 pm to
I used to get my arse wiped once a week if I needed it or not. And yes, I did shite that my kids are angles.

Some times a good spanking is need. Your child will thank you later in life.

The deal is, never and I men never spank your child when you are pissed off.
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
18876 posts
Posted on 1/8/16 at 2:36 pm to
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I have more degrees

In that case you are an intelligent person but not a very smart one.

Also degrees does not have anything to do with knowing how one should raise a child.
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