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re: Do any classy people own Mustangs or Camaros?

Posted on 6/29/16 at 1:42 pm to
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 6/29/16 at 1:42 pm to
The biggest cost was in restoring the frame and the body if I remember correctly. He had to have a good deal of it custom made I believe.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 6/29/16 at 1:43 pm to
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would think under 30k. The car in the pic wasnt the one in question but even that car I would see being under 30k.



I don't think he's lying at all

I guess it depends on how bad off the original car was and what exactly he did with it.
Posted by Jones
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Posted on 6/29/16 at 1:46 pm to
yea word. we dont know many details but getting a muscle car restored for under 30k is easily doable.

you can get them for less than that with the work already done on ebay or other classic car selling sites. now it wont be a 63 vette but plenty of muscle cars can be had
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 6/29/16 at 1:47 pm to
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He must've done A LOT of the work himself


He did things like the engine and transmission himself. I'm going off the top of my head but I think he had around $10,000 give or take some in those.

He had a professional do the body work and paint. He also had them make virtually the entire interior brand new as well.

About the only part of the car that was not brand new was the frame. And even it had a lot of work done to restore it.
This post was edited on 6/29/16 at 1:48 pm
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 6/29/16 at 1:57 pm to
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I guess it depends on how bad off the original car was and what exactly he did with it.



It was actually down in the woods on the backside of the junk yard when he found it. The two things I can remember about the first pics he took was the floors were totally rusted away, the rest of the body was in not much better shape. And the seats were nothing but the wire frames. All the upholstery was gone.
Posted by Redbone
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Posted on 6/29/16 at 1:59 pm to
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Do any classy people own Mustangs or Camaros?

Do you actually think anyone on this site is classy enough to judge what is classy and what isn't?
Posted by CaptainsWafer
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Posted on 6/29/16 at 2:12 pm to
Yea you can save a lot in labor doing as much as you can yourself. But to have a car that's as nice as you say for $30k, either it's a polished turd or he did a bunch of work himself.
Posted by bayourougebengal
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 6/29/16 at 2:13 pm to
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Do any classy people own Mustangs or Camaros?


Yes but their cars are at least 45 years old. Probably not the Mustangs and Camaros you're asking about.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
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Posted on 6/29/16 at 2:20 pm to
If it's a GT or the Chevy equivalent it's much less trashy imo.
Posted by shawnlsu
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Posted on 6/29/16 at 2:35 pm to
That is one hell of a c section scar
Posted by Tigers_Saints
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Posted on 6/29/16 at 3:08 pm to
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you are talking in 2 directions. first you live in a business world where public perception means something. Then you still drive your clients around in a 10yo g35


Those aren't two different directions at all. The 10 year old car is well maintained and runs fine. I'm not going to make a stupid financial decision and purchasing a new vehicle before it is needed.

That reflects positively, not negatively.

Just like my only option of a new vehicle isn't a Mustang. There are competing vehicles against it that may not have a negative stigma. Once again, I'm not the one who created the stigma...are you denying that it exists?

This post was edited on 6/29/16 at 3:13 pm
Posted by member12
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Posted on 6/29/16 at 3:14 pm to
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Do any classy people own Mustangs or Camaros?


Not sure.

Never thought much of either car growing up in the 1990s. They looked cheaply built and poorly designed - especially the Mustang, which was a pretty slow car in those days.

I had the change to drive a Challenger (which is Dodge's competitor to the Camaro and Mustang) last year for a week on a business trip and it felt like a big, cheap boat. I would never own one.

Then just a couple of weeks ago, I rented a new Camaro and I was pleasantly surprised by how it rode, handled, and the quality. That car had a good suspension and stayed glued to the road....and even with the V6, it was surprisingly responsive and fast. They definitely aren't complete shite boxes with big engines anymore. They also cost about 40% more than they used to so I guess a significant improvement should be expected.

The Charger felt like an old world muscle car with throwback styling designed to remind people of a time when cars like that were cool. Big, long hood and massive doors....and with a very cheap looking interior.

The Camaro has moved beyond being a muscle car to the point where it actually handles. I was impressed with it and figured that Chevrolet is slowly positioning the Camaro as a sub-Corvette sports car while they move the Corvette more upmarket. The Camaro feels like a sports car, but sounds and looks like a Muscle car....which is pretty cool.

I haven't driven a Mustang in a few years, but I think the new Mustang is much more like the Camaro than than the Challenger.
This post was edited on 6/29/16 at 3:24 pm
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 6/29/16 at 3:15 pm to
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Yea you can save a lot in labor doing as much as you can yourself. But to have a car that's as nice as you say for $30k, either it's a polished turd or he did a bunch of work himself


It's far from a polished turd. It's in showroom floor condition and runs like a top. And yes, he did a good deal of the work himself. I think that was the whole point. He wanted to do as much of it as possible because he loves working on classic cars. But on things like the paint and body where he's not that well versed, he had a professional do those things.
Posted by Tigers_Saints
Member since Jun 2016
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Posted on 6/29/16 at 3:18 pm to
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it is.


I love the well thought out answer to the question why

Because I said so.

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sorry but that isnt impressing any client as much as a new mustang would disappoint a client.


I never said it was impressing clients. That isn't the argument at all.

Feel free to climb over the seat to sit in the spacious back.

Furthermore, I tend to shy away from using my vehicle if going with a co-worker, which is something i wouldn't do with a new purchase.

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you obviously arent making millions or you wouldnt be driving a 10 year old that is worth less than 10k.


I don't make millions. I'm doing pretty well for myself though, as is my wife. That doesn't mean I'm going to wastefully and idiotically throw money down the drain on a depreciating asset.

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a classic car isnt going to fix that. theyre old, unreliable as shite, and very uncomfortable.


K
This post was edited on 6/29/16 at 3:40 pm
Posted by member12
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Posted on 6/29/16 at 3:29 pm to
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The new Camaro is a nice vehicle, other than horrible visibility. Sat in one this morning at Gerry Lane while my truck was being serviced.
Pretty fast and good handling too. I'd drive one. Whether or not I'm classy or not is up for debate.




The Camaro is definitely beyond just being a Muscle car now. It sounds and looks like a Muscle car but handles like it's on rails.

I read about GM possibly offering a sports coupe with very contemporary styling on the Camaro's excellent chassis. It is supposed to be sold through Buick dealers as the Avista or Grand Sport.

Seems like it would be a good way to enjoy what has become a very good sports car without the Camaro stima.
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