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Dartmouth Medical School drops all of the cheating charges against 17 students
Posted on 6/12/21 at 11:27 am
Posted on 6/12/21 at 11:27 am
Not surprised once they found software irregularities
“In the wake of backlash from students and faculty, the Geisel School of Medicine at Dartmouth College has dropped all charges against a group of 17 students accused of cheating on their remote tests.
The charges were based on online activity data recorded on Canvas — a popular course management system used by schools for online learning.
The accused students reportedly accessed course materials while taking a closed-book exam.
Dartmouth had dismissed seven charges after a few students argued that instructors had mistaken Canvas activity for cheating. However, 10 more still faced possible discipline, including suspension.
The school’s decision was followed by on-campus protests and letters of concern from faculty and student organizations who believed that these students were shouldering the responsibility for a faulty online proctoring tool.“
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“In the wake of backlash from students and faculty, the Geisel School of Medicine at Dartmouth College has dropped all charges against a group of 17 students accused of cheating on their remote tests.
The charges were based on online activity data recorded on Canvas — a popular course management system used by schools for online learning.
The accused students reportedly accessed course materials while taking a closed-book exam.
Dartmouth had dismissed seven charges after a few students argued that instructors had mistaken Canvas activity for cheating. However, 10 more still faced possible discipline, including suspension.
The school’s decision was followed by on-campus protests and letters of concern from faculty and student organizations who believed that these students were shouldering the responsibility for a faulty online proctoring tool.“
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This post was edited on 6/12/21 at 11:29 am
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Posted on 6/12/21 at 11:34 am to tigerskin
Med school in America have a very high pass rate...> 90%. These guys were just trying to up their class ranking to get better residencies. Low character move. If they are lucky to stay in school, they'll have a tough time matching
Posted on 6/12/21 at 11:37 am to tigerskin
I used Canvas regularly in college and it can definitely be glitchy and faulty. I never had an issue when taking an exam through it, but I can definitely see how it could happen.
Posted on 6/12/21 at 11:37 am to geaux2008
I wish them all long, fulfilling careers in correctional proctology.
Posted on 6/12/21 at 11:38 am to tigerskin
My last two semesters of college were Spring and Fall 2020 so height of covid.
Every single test was basically a group effort over discord or zoom and it was just the best and most stress free test taking experience lol.
Every single test was basically a group effort over discord or zoom and it was just the best and most stress free test taking experience lol.
Posted on 6/12/21 at 11:43 am to tigerskin
This is why you use two laptops when taking an online exam
Posted on 6/12/21 at 11:47 am to tigerskin
My son just completed year 1 of LSU med Nola. Every class was on line, but every test was in person. The cadaver lab was on line, but is now optional in person this summer. He, of course, is doing that as are most. From what I understand, that is essential for anyone wanting to do surgery. The docs on here can speak to it better than I.
Posted on 6/12/21 at 11:59 am to The Boat
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This is why you use two laptops when taking an online exam
But that stuff was tracking their eye movements
Posted on 6/12/21 at 11:59 am to tigerskin
They are still smarter than any of the docs coming to America from the Caribbean. let'em cheat
Posted on 6/12/21 at 12:00 pm to Lethrill
Yeah there would be absolutely no comparison between on line and in the lab for Gross Anatomy. Got to get your hands dirty
This post was edited on 6/12/21 at 12:02 pm
Posted on 6/12/21 at 12:07 pm to Lethrill
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The cadaver lab was on line, but is now optional in person this summer
I was the only on in my group willing to bisect the head
Posted on 6/12/21 at 12:23 pm to tigerskin
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This post was edited on 6/22/21 at 3:59 am
Posted on 6/12/21 at 12:26 pm to meauxses
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Every single test was basically a group effort over discord or zoom and it was just the best and most stress free test taking experience lol.
I’m assuming cheating has highly rampant in schools and universities all across the country over the last year. Teachers and professors probably knew it too
Posted on 6/12/21 at 12:38 pm to Lethrill
Sorry but cadaver lab needs to be in person
Posted on 6/12/21 at 12:38 pm to Lethrill
And mandatory
Posted on 6/12/21 at 12:42 pm to meauxses
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Every single test was basically a group effort over discord or zoom and it was just the best and most stress free test taking experience lol.
We had a bunch of groups on groupme and shared study material / test information the whole semester. It was great
Posted on 6/12/21 at 12:52 pm to tigerskin
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Yeah there would be absolutely no comparison between on line and in the lab for Gross Anatomy. Got to get your hands dirty
Netter’s is awesome but it’s no comparison. That’s crazy to think about: no anatomy lab for the past year. They got cheated of an invaluable learning experience.
Posted on 6/12/21 at 2:21 pm to tigerskin
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The accused students reportedly accessed course materials while taking a closed-book exam.
What part did I miss? Admitting they used an app during a “closed book exam” justifies expulsion.
Posted on 6/12/21 at 2:47 pm to tigerskin
Can we get their names to avoid them in future?
Posted on 6/12/21 at 3:59 pm to wileyjones
There’s definitely some aspect that hasn’t been shared. These two quotes are contradictory:
“He apologized to the students.”
“Some of the students said they admitted to the accusations in the immediate aftermath because they were advised by the Office of Student Affairs that students who do so receive less severe penalties, the letter stated.”
This is the first time I’ve seen a dean apologize to a student that admitted to cheating….it might actually be the first time I’ve seen a dean apologize to students for any reason.
“He apologized to the students.”
“Some of the students said they admitted to the accusations in the immediate aftermath because they were advised by the Office of Student Affairs that students who do so receive less severe penalties, the letter stated.”
This is the first time I’ve seen a dean apologize to a student that admitted to cheating….it might actually be the first time I’ve seen a dean apologize to students for any reason.
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