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Construction Management Salaries
Posted on 10/29/16 at 11:17 pm
Posted on 10/29/16 at 11:17 pm
Had dinner with a group of friends tonight, one of who was bragging about his latest job offer. He claims he got an offer that I just don't believe, but I'm not in that industry so maybe I just don't realize what I missed out on.
Guy says his company is going to pay $2k per month in living expenses, plus his salary (which he wouldn't give exactly but kept saying it was a "top offer"), plus relocation expenses to move to Arkansas.
Now this would all be believable, but this guy has less than 5 years experience and his degree is in business, not engineering or construction. A few years ago, with his degree, he was making $30k working for the highway commission.
Does this sound reasonable? I know in the past he had said companies were not willing to pay him "at a top level" because his degree wasn't construction related. But suddenly this company is offering all of this? Call me jealous if you want. I just like to know when people are blowing smoke up my arse.
Guy says his company is going to pay $2k per month in living expenses, plus his salary (which he wouldn't give exactly but kept saying it was a "top offer"), plus relocation expenses to move to Arkansas.
Now this would all be believable, but this guy has less than 5 years experience and his degree is in business, not engineering or construction. A few years ago, with his degree, he was making $30k working for the highway commission.
Does this sound reasonable? I know in the past he had said companies were not willing to pay him "at a top level" because his degree wasn't construction related. But suddenly this company is offering all of this? Call me jealous if you want. I just like to know when people are blowing smoke up my arse.
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Posted on 10/29/16 at 11:20 pm to cfa626
You either mad or jealous
Posted on 10/29/16 at 11:22 pm to cfa626
My best friend is a big time contractor, and what you mention is a pretty standard deal. They wanted him to stay near a location this summer and he chose to just commute, but they would have paid all living expenses and his salary.
Makes about 150k annual or more.
Did not finish high school.
Makes about 150k annual or more.
Did not finish high school.
Posted on 10/29/16 at 11:22 pm to KarlMalonesFlipPhone
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You either mad or jealous
When someone hijacks every conversation at dinner to bring it back to his job offer, it gets annoying pretty quick.
Posted on 10/29/16 at 11:24 pm to cfa626
Construction pays well because it has to.... BUT the amounts you stated are crazy.
When you relocate for work in the CM field, you are generally paid for says 60 hours per week straight time and get a per down, but not $2k. Maybe $1k in additional salary and other benefits - car allowance, phone allowance, etc.
When you relocate for work in the CM field, you are generally paid for says 60 hours per week straight time and get a per down, but not $2k. Maybe $1k in additional salary and other benefits - car allowance, phone allowance, etc.
Posted on 10/29/16 at 11:24 pm to cfa626
That would get very annoying
Posted on 10/29/16 at 11:27 pm to cfa626
Well, we found the hater among us.
Posted on 10/29/16 at 11:27 pm to cfa626
Construction management folks can make a damn good bit of money. gotta remember though, that they often work some damn long hours and sometimes live in travel trailers on site and that kind of shite.
generally, if a company is willing to pay you a hell of a lot of money, there is usually a pretty good reason for that.
generally, if a company is willing to pay you a hell of a lot of money, there is usually a pretty good reason for that.
Posted on 10/29/16 at 11:30 pm to cfa626
Only guys I know making that kind of money have a lot of years experience and basically live on the jobsite. Housing is a perk, but they get little time there.
Posted on 10/30/16 at 12:29 am to cfa626
That's not that out of the norm, but you can be assured that he's going to be working a crazy number of hours during that time, probably 6 or 7 12s for months at a time.
Posted on 10/30/16 at 5:39 am to kingbob
In industrial (plants) construction, it is very common for all employees to get $80-$120 a day in per diem (food + housing) compensation. This goes to the time keepers on site to the project manager. Some companies charge different per diem rates depending on the position. Per diem is usually paid every day in the month. So at $80 per diem and a 30 day month, they get $2,400. But they are usually living in an apartment or camper trailer close to the site.
Posted on 10/30/16 at 5:43 am to cfa626
I've spent a decade in this business. bullshite tolerance is directly proportional to the amount of money you're making.
If he's making that in per diem, it's probably going to be a rough project. (ie 7 days a week, etc). But it's really not that unheard of.
Edit: and good for him, too. When I graduated I went to work for a certain large company in BR. About a year in, I got told on a Tuesday I'd be leaving on Friday to north Texas for 6 months onsite on a project. (That was a fun conversation with Mrs Prez. ) I got $35/day in per diem, but company did pay the hotel bill.
If he's making that in per diem, it's probably going to be a rough project. (ie 7 days a week, etc). But it's really not that unheard of.
Edit: and good for him, too. When I graduated I went to work for a certain large company in BR. About a year in, I got told on a Tuesday I'd be leaving on Friday to north Texas for 6 months onsite on a project. (That was a fun conversation with Mrs Prez. ) I got $35/day in per diem, but company did pay the hotel bill.
This post was edited on 10/30/16 at 5:48 am
Posted on 10/30/16 at 8:12 am to elprez00
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I got $35/day in per diem, but company did pay the hotel bill.
I'm not in the biz so I'm ignorant here, but why is the company paying per diem if you are living in paid for trailers and hotels? That's the whole point of a per diem? Its not like there are Ruth's Chris in rural places either. Is it just because per diem is usually tax free and they can pay it as an added perk?
If you are in rural arkansas and get a large per diem with a free place to stay already, could the IRS not come back and audit that because that's a lot of money to spend on food in a rural location?
Posted on 10/30/16 at 8:14 am to cfa626
There's a lot of money in contract travel work. Contractor benefits are usually shite. There is good money also in working for an owner(I.e. A refinery or Chem plant) where you don't have to travel.
Posted on 10/30/16 at 8:21 am to cfa626
I worked for a national retail GC out of college for a few years. Field guys were paid all of their living expenses plus salary and were also paid to travel home every other week if they had families.
My salary was around 45k in 2004 with $2,000 a month living expenses paid at the first of the month tax free.
My salary was around 45k in 2004 with $2,000 a month living expenses paid at the first of the month tax free.
Posted on 10/30/16 at 8:24 am to 4LSU2
After 5 years you can double that...triple after 10 years
Posted on 10/30/16 at 8:26 am to baldona
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I'm not in the biz so I'm ignorant here, but why is the company paying per diem if you are living in paid for trailers and hotels? That's the whole point of a per diem? Its not like there are Ruth's Chris in rural places either. Is it just because per diem is usually tax free and they can pay it as an added perk?
If you are in rural arkansas and get a large per diem with a free place to stay already, could the IRS not come back and audit that because that's a lot of money to spend on food in a rural location?
IRS has a per diem meal rate. dependign on area, it's like $10 for breakfast, $12-15 for lunch, $20-25 for dinner.
Posted on 10/30/16 at 8:27 am to cfa626
My dad gets $5k a month living expenses and $80 an hr. He made $100 a hr last year in Canada. Comes out to $7040 plus the $5k a month living. Money is great but sucks being away from family.
This post was edited on 10/30/16 at 8:31 am
Posted on 10/30/16 at 8:30 am to cfa626
It's a tough job and affects the quality of life that an individual can enjoy. The money is good if your company is reputable. Some folks enjoy it and some do not, others do what they must to feed the family. At the end of the day almost nobody gets rich unless they have an ownership stake in a successful construction company
Posted on 10/30/16 at 8:31 am to cfa626
People are paid a lot of money to do things that other guys won't do. Basically job security.
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