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Considering Purchasing a 3/4 ton Diesel

Posted on 11/28/20 at 4:14 am
Posted by teambooyah
Member since Aug 2015
120 posts
Posted on 11/28/20 at 4:14 am
I have needed to haul equipment for work/play several times over the last year and have been limited by my half ton truck. I started looking at diesels for a used one and holy hell. They are high.

My requirements:
4 doors (kids)
Full console (just a preference)
Leather

Any opinions on jumping into the 3/4 tons regarding which ones to buy? I also even considered the gas burner 3/4 ton simply due to money.
Posted by VolsOut4Harambe
Atlanta, GA
Member since Sep 2017
12856 posts
Posted on 11/28/20 at 4:23 am to
Posted by subMOA
Komatipoort
Member since Jan 2010
1715 posts
Posted on 11/28/20 at 4:31 am to
The key thing is where do you live?

If BR, NOLA, Lafayette- a gas 3/4 ton will suit you just fine. It’s the hills that make towing heavy stuff w/o a diesel no fun.

Modern 3/4 ton gas trucks have come a long way- I have a 2016 Chevy 2500 HD gas with nearly 200k miles and all it does is pull a gooseneck. The truck has NEVER been to the shop- original battery, alternator, starter, etc.

OTOH, modern diesels are something else- the numbers they put out are 18 wheeler territory from just a few years ago. BUUUUT....be prepared to work on them.
They are maintenance nightmares- the DIY oil change will cost you over $100.
You’ll need to change fuel filters that you never had to before.
And- when the DEF goes bad, or a sensor goes nuts- be prepared for it to ride on a tow truck to the dealership to sort it out. It’s not a matter of IF, it’s a WHEN. The EPA has such strict emissions rules, the systems are inherently complex and thus prone to problems.

Look at major equipment dealership service fleets- like Herc Rentals- all the service trucks have gone to gas. The cost/benefit of the fuel savings doesn’t make sense anymore when all the major truck manufacturers make a gas that can handle service duty.

In addition- this is the one that really got me- a few years ago, if you walked up to a Ford dealership- there wasn’t a single 3/4 ton gas truck. Now, half of them are. There’s a reason for that.
This post was edited on 11/28/20 at 4:32 am
Posted by OldHickory
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2012
10602 posts
Posted on 11/28/20 at 4:43 am to
If budget is a concern, you might want to wait awhile for prices to come back down. Leather is going to push your price a lot higher—decide how big of a deal this is for you. Stick with gas.
Posted by 24nights
Louisiana
Member since Apr 2012
4779 posts
Posted on 11/28/20 at 4:43 am to
Get ready for more expensive oil changes and pray it doesn’t break down out of warranty. Insurance doesn’t pay when you fill up at the pump and there is water in the fuel either. You can forget about whipping that thing in a small parking spot too. Make sure to get the California lean, it’s in style now.
Prayers sent,,,
Posted by DLauw
SWLA
Member since Sep 2011
6086 posts
Posted on 11/28/20 at 5:43 am to
I’m about to retire my old 7.3 diesel. I have a 6.2 gas waiting in the wings. If I wasn’t paying a few car notes already, I’d look at a new 7.3 gas.
Posted by sparkinator
Lake Claiborne
Member since Dec 2007
4460 posts
Posted on 11/28/20 at 6:05 am to
I found a used 2008 Duramax a few years back that had all I was looking for. It's a LMM and doesn't require DEF. It goes through a 'regen' once a tank full to burn off the particulate in the converter, but that's about all it does EPA wise. I pull a tractor around and a good size ski boat and pontoon boat and I had just had to replace the tranny in my old truck when I bought this one. The Allison transmission was what hooked me.
Posted by fishfighter
RIP
Member since Apr 2008
40026 posts
Posted on 11/28/20 at 6:31 am to
Still running my old Dodge 2004, 5.9L Cummins. 250K miles and the only problem with the engine was a water pump that I had changed. Never been in the shop. Still runs like the day I bought it.

The new diesel engines are sweet, but way to much BS added on them.
Posted by 2geaux
Georgia
Member since Feb 2008
2603 posts
Posted on 11/28/20 at 7:11 am to
I just bought my 5th f250. I had over 300k miles on each before I got a new one.
Posted by greenhead11
Member since Feb 2012
922 posts
Posted on 11/28/20 at 7:17 am to
When exactly are prices going to come back down?
Posted by UncleRuckus
Member since Feb 2013
7649 posts
Posted on 11/28/20 at 7:18 am to
Make sure you drive like a complete a-hole after you get it. It’s the only way the other diesel baws will accept you
Posted by Capital Cajun
Over Yonder
Member since Aug 2007
5525 posts
Posted on 11/28/20 at 7:19 am to
Everything maintenance and repair is a lot more expensive with the diesel.

You can get a 6 liter gas engine that will probably do everything you need
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
16864 posts
Posted on 11/28/20 at 7:30 am to
The gas 3/4 ton Chevy’s don’t tow as much as the big diesel, but they are just as reliable and cheaper to maintain.

They will tow more than the half ton trucks though. Try it out. The new ones have a 6.6L gas V8 that’s fairly simple in design. Plenty of output for towing.
Posted by Fat and Happy
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2013
17001 posts
Posted on 11/28/20 at 7:35 am to
Have a ram 2500 and i freaking love that truck.

Have 3 kids and i ride comfortable around in it. Plenty of room.

If you are worried about fuel mpg with diesels, 2 options.


1: don’t get one
2: delete it but do know, that it voids your warranty. However, deleted you will get an added 10 mpg and your truck won’t drink DEF as quickly
Posted by lgtiger
LA
Member since May 2005
1140 posts
Posted on 11/28/20 at 7:37 am to
Gas is fine, especially if you are not hauling daily. The DEF is a pain in the azz. Loved the way my diesel 3/4 GMC ran, with no gauge, it seemed as when hauled a load of cows on a long trip was when the sensor came on. When I bought a new truck I went back to gas. Next tractor I buy will be used pre emission model.
Posted by BuddyRoeaux
Northshore
Member since Jun 2019
2696 posts
Posted on 11/28/20 at 7:37 am to
Stick with gas.

Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
16864 posts
Posted on 11/28/20 at 7:39 am to
quote:

few years ago, if you walked up to a Ford dealership- there wasn’t a single 3/4 ton gas truck. Now, half of them are.


Putting maintenance aside as all heavy diesels are similar in that respect.....

The repair bills on the Powerstroke Ford are catastrophically high. And for about 7-8 model years, nearly all Ford diesels were complete garbage.
This post was edited on 11/28/20 at 7:40 am
Posted by Fletch1985
Member since Jun 2020
281 posts
Posted on 11/28/20 at 7:42 am to
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This post was edited on 2/22/24 at 12:09 pm
Posted by summersausage
Member since Jul 2010
1815 posts
Posted on 11/28/20 at 7:49 am to
What are you hauling that you are limited with a 1/2 ton? Most can haul 10,000-12,000lbs these days.
Posted by Warfarer
Dothan, AL
Member since May 2010
12126 posts
Posted on 11/28/20 at 8:03 am to
Big thing is what are you pulling and where are you pulling it?

My f150 with a v8 can pull small excavators around with no problem but doesn’t deal with hills well. I had an 06 2500 with the 6.0 gas burner that was a monster snd could tank around 14000 pounds up and down hills with no problem. A diesel is an upgrade but not as big a gap anymore snd the fuel cost offset is hard to overcome unless you absolutely have to have a diesel motor.
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