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Community Policing? What do you think of this?

Posted on 1/5/17 at 3:53 pm
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
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Posted on 1/5/17 at 3:53 pm
So our brand new Honorable Mayor has been spouting "community policing" every other breath. I was never sure what she meant and then saw this. While I am pro meeting with people, talking to them, etc I have very mixed feelings about seeing police officers doing grocery bagging duty. What do you think? Good idea or stupid?

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Customers checking out groceries Wednesday at the Cortana Wal-Mart found Baton Rouge cops at the end of the register, bagging groceries and handing out flyers in a novel outreach effort aimed at boosting community ties.

The police officers, all with the Baton Rouge Police Department's Community Services Division, distributed sheets with phone numbers and tips for reporting crime as they placed bags of produce, bottles of detergent and rolls of paper towels in shopping carts. "Everybody's gotta come to the grocery store," said Sgt. Riley Harbor, the division's commander, explaining the decision to deploy his officers on bagging duty for a two-hour stretch.

It's the division's first time staffing a grocery store, Harbor said, but likely won't be the last. Even while the police officers were working the checkout lines at the Supercenter, Harbor said, another local grocery store reached out about possibly bringing the cops there as well.


Can I call to get a shift of officers to come work at my business for free as well?

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This post was edited on 1/5/17 at 3:55 pm
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
36418 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 3:56 pm to
Would you rather the police and the community having a bad relationship? Community policing is meant to enhance cooperation and trust. The grocery bag thing may be dumb but i agree with the overall concept.
This post was edited on 1/5/17 at 3:58 pm
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
35115 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 3:57 pm to
Aren't they afraid the officers will harass the customers?
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72080 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 3:59 pm to
quote:

another local grocery store reached out about possibly bringing the cops there as well.
Free labor.
Posted by Loungefly85
Lafayette
Member since Jul 2016
7930 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 3:59 pm to
Honestly... It's worth a shot. Nothing is working in NBR, so maybe trying something different could help. At the very least it won't make things worse.


That being said, NBR is pretty much hopeless though and the only way to fix it is to ban Sect. 8 and demolish all blighted properties and start over.
This post was edited on 1/5/17 at 4:00 pm
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
127409 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 4:00 pm to
It is supposedly working in the Gardere area.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 1/5/17 at 4:01 pm to
quote:

Would you rather the police and the community having a bad relationship? Community policing is meant to enhance cooperation and trust. The grocery bag thing may be dumb but i agree with the overall concept.


The problem is that the communities with the highest crime rates don't give a frick enough about their community to actually give the cops information when a crime is committed.

I don't disagree with the concept of creating a better relationship with police, but the reality is that until these communities start valuing the people in their own community then it's not going to do much.

ETA: We've done something similar here in Louisville but it hasn't slowed the murder rate (highest in 30 years in 2016) as a result of the growing gang problem we have here.
This post was edited on 1/5/17 at 4:02 pm
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
65907 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 4:01 pm to
seems like a great use of tax dollars.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67589 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 4:03 pm to
quote:

another local grocery store reached out about possibly bringing the cops there as well.


they don't want to get robbed while the entire force is at walmart
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
59650 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 4:04 pm to


someone call neighborhood watch?
Posted by AlaTiger
America
Member since Aug 2006
21121 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 4:04 pm to
quote:

Would you rather the police and the community having a bad relationship? Community policing is meant to enhance cooperation and trust. The grocery bag thing may be dumb but i agree with the overall concept.


Yep. It is being used all over the country with good results. The idea is that the police are showing that they believe that most people are law abiding and good citizens and they want to build relationships with them.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67083 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 4:06 pm to
It's a buzzword that includes a lot of different policy ideas, both good and bad. It hides their true intentions. It could mean more community investment, with police officers interacting more with the neighborhood and building better ties. It could mean more inspection sticker checkpoints. It could mean abandoning the neighborhood completely unless called.

"Community policing" can mean whatever its proponents or detractors want it to mean.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134860 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 4:10 pm to
If it works then I'm all for it. Now a residency requirement is something I don't agree with.
This post was edited on 1/5/17 at 4:28 pm
Posted by LSUTigersVCURams
Member since Jul 2014
21940 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 4:12 pm to
quote:

"Community policing" can mean whatever its proponents or detractors want it to mean.


Good point.
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
39195 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 4:14 pm to
quote:

The idea is that the police are showing that they believe that most people are law abiding and good citizens and they want to build relationships with them.

They don't actually believe this, they just want you to think they do.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
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Posted on 1/5/17 at 4:16 pm to
quote:

The idea is that the police are showing that they believe that most people are law abiding and good citizens and they want to build relationships with them.



i don't see this happening at Whole Foods...so why isn't this considered profiling?
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 1/5/17 at 4:17 pm to
quote:


i don't see this happening at Whole Foods...so why isn't this considered profiling?

They're targeting high crime areas, not specific groups of people
Posted by LSUJML
BR
Member since May 2008
45547 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 4:33 pm to
quote:

"Community policing" can mean whatever its proponents or detractors want it to mean.


This.

The idea of officers being out in the community & interacting is what it should be about.

The idea of officers living & working in a community so that when something happens the officers would know how to respond (they wouldn't shoot a suspect with a gun because they would know he really would never actually try to shoot them)
This is BR's idea of community policing
Posted by Rebelgator
Pripyat Bridge
Member since Mar 2010
39543 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 4:35 pm to
Community policing works. Bagging groceries is an odd approach though.
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
18905 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 4:35 pm to
quote:

The idea of officers living & working in a community so that when something happens the officers would know how to respond (they wouldn't shoot a suspect with a gun because they would know he really would never actually try to shoot them)


I think there are people who actually believe what you just wrote. But that is a hell of a gamble to take.
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