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re: CNC machines are amazing

Posted on 5/15/14 at 10:40 am to
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 5/15/14 at 10:40 am to
The video was clearly edited and skipped forward a bunch of times...you could see it pretty clearly.
Posted by ZZTIGERS
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 5/15/14 at 10:41 am to
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What's the price tag on one of those things? A few $100k?


After buying it, having it setup, properly leveled, proven out, and purchasing all the tooling, you're looking at closer to a million.
Posted by TigerHam85
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Posted on 5/15/14 at 10:43 am to
Tool changes and position changes obviously weren't in the video. Actual cut time, yea, there is a way.
Posted by ZZTIGERS
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 5/15/14 at 10:45 am to
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There's no way they ran a part that complex in 7 mins.

Yeah, there's no way it was ran in 7 minutes. Just the roughing out, would take well more than 7 minutes. Not to mention all the milling & boring being completed.
This post was edited on 5/15/14 at 10:49 am
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 5/15/14 at 10:48 am to
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The video was clearly edited and skipped forward a bunch of times...you could see it pretty clearly.

Yeah, at 27 seconds in they cut several minutes of whittling out of there.
Posted by oilmanNO
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 5/15/14 at 10:52 am to
That's a million dollar machine and that process would take many hours
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 5/15/14 at 11:01 am to
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Also a mill FWIW

I didn't watch it to the end. That is some fancy equipment either way. Some high $$ stuff. The ones we had were Haas and a crappy Kitamura.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 5/15/14 at 11:05 am to
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Tool changes and position changes obviously weren't in the video. Actual cut time, yea, there is a way.


You obviously haven't been around CNC's very much.
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 5/15/14 at 11:07 am to
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the G-code


West west y'all!
Posted by htownjeep
Republic of Texas
Member since Jun 2005
7612 posts
Posted on 5/15/14 at 11:12 am to
We have several CNC's here at my work and they're awesome to watch. Always impressive if I'm taking a client through the shop and they're working on some big pieces.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28705 posts
Posted on 5/15/14 at 11:32 am to
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You obviously haven't been around CNC's very much.

Yeah, that part took the better part of a day to make. They only showed short clips of 2 or 3 tool changes, while each change probably took 10 seconds to a minute (I haven't actually seen one of these in action), and there were several dozen tool changes. All told the machine probably spent the better part of an hour just changing tools while working on that part. Not to mention the video cuts out all of the repetitive cuts, of which there were many.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 5/15/14 at 11:37 am to
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Yeah, that part took the better part of a day to make. They only showed short clips of 2 or 3 tool changes, while each change probably took 10 seconds to a minute (I haven't actually seen one of these in action), and there were several dozen tool changes. All told the machine probably spent the better part of an hour just changing tools while working on that part. Not to mention the video cuts out all of the repetitive cuts, of which there were many.


I've seen parts that use 3 tools and have 1/1000th of the programming of that thing take 7 mins to run. And that's just lathe functions, no milling.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 5/15/14 at 11:48 am to
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I've seen parts that use 3 tools and have 1/1000th of the programming of that thing take 7 mins to run. And that's just lathe functions, no milling.

Is it typical for these machines to use no coolant, or did they run it dry just for the video?
Posted by Broke
AKA Buttercup
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 5/15/14 at 11:50 am to
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Is it typical for these machines to use no coolant, or did they run it dry just for the video?


I found that strange. I always thought they used juice to cool it off and lubricate.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134845 posts
Posted on 5/15/14 at 12:00 pm to
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Is it typical for these machines to use no coolant, or did they run it dry just for the video?


I found that odd as well. I've never seen a CNC late or mill that didn't use coolant. It may have something to do with how many RPM's they're running. Lower RPM's may not require coolant. Although, I did notice a few sparks fly.


It may also be due to demonstration purposes too. You can't see much detail when the whole part is being doused in opaque coolant.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28705 posts
Posted on 5/15/14 at 12:02 pm to
One of the youtube comments on this video is "You would think Google wouldn't allow pornography on Youtube"
Posted by ruzil
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2012
16893 posts
Posted on 5/15/14 at 12:02 pm to
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That ain't the same thing brah. Get back to work


Right, teeth are much harder to design and mill.

Eat.a.dick
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
23965 posts
Posted on 5/15/14 at 12:05 pm to
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Is it typical for these machines to use no coolant, or did they run it dry just for the video?


Yeah normally they use an oil based coolant. Those carbide tools are expensive and the fluid extends tool life.
Posted by Chatagnier
Member since Sep 2008
6851 posts
Posted on 5/15/14 at 12:08 pm to
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I couldn't imagine what goes into producing the G-code for a part like that. But truth be known the G-code is probably easily produced by software once the proper 3D CAD drawings are made. I have a small desk top 3 axis CNC and I have been fooling with it for about 2 years and still not fully competent in the use of the softwares. I can tell you if you put garbage in, you get garbage out. Your CAD renderings have to be good.


That was a Mori I believe. They are very user friendly with their G code.
Posted by waiting4saturday
Covington, LA
Member since Sep 2005
9716 posts
Posted on 5/15/14 at 12:46 pm to
Surprisingly, you can get pretty cool CNC machines for less than $30K off eBay.

Also we got to use a CNC for one of our labs ME at LSU. They're so cool to work with and pretty easy.
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