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re: Climatology: more hot, dryness for Texas

Posted on 4/24/24 at 12:26 pm to
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 4/24/24 at 12:26 pm to
As CO2 concentrations increase more earthly greening will occur which will impact our climatic temperatures by becoming more temperate (lower highs and higher lows) due to increased atmospheric water vapor from more plants respiring.

I agree that the increase in atmospheric CO2 is man made. The question is, what is the impact?

I'm not concerned about current concentrations but we should slow down our current emissions as much as possible. In terms of government policy they could make nuclear more available (see France). High CO2 concentrations will not have a detrimental effect on climate. But will have a detrimental effect on our physiology when the concentrations get really high (>8000 ppm).
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 4/24/24 at 12:30 pm to
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What equations did you use to calculate that?


It's just the heat capacity of atmospheric gases and the ratio from the initial to the proposed. This assumes that energy inputs (sun) remain static. If energy inputs do not remain static then you have use q=Cp*dt with the new Cp proportion.
This post was edited on 4/24/24 at 12:41 pm
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
6554 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 12:46 pm to
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It's just the heat capacity of atmospheric gases and the ratio from the initial to the proposed. This assumes that energy inputs (sun) remain static. If energy inputs do not remain static then you have use q=Cp*dt with the new Cp proportion.

Did you calculate for compounding interest as more heat is trapped in the oceans?
Posted by lake chuck fan
westlake
Member since Aug 2011
9157 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 12:50 pm to
Timcast IRL played a climate video from the 70's assuring us that we would be in an ice age by the 2000's! Insanity, all if it.
Posted by Jones
Member since Oct 2005
90503 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 12:51 pm to
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Corinthians420


Curious what your degree is in and what you do for a living. You havecsone strong stances in here. Surely you back them up with your own thoughts, right?
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
6554 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 1:01 pm to
Finance. I haven't inserted any of my own data in here though.

It's really all just math once you study the data.

Whether NASAs or Exxons figure of 2°F increase caused by humans is true or the actual effect is half that, It still brings me to the same conclusion that manmade climate change is occurring.
Posted by coolieaux
Horns Down l"l
Member since Nov 2006
141 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 1:02 pm to
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Except Scientology and climatology are literally nothing alike


Except for the fact that they're both made up BS
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
53939 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 1:10 pm to
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climatology

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Except for the fact that they're both made up BS

Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
6554 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 1:11 pm to
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Except for the fact that they're both made up BS

You sound like a very rational person so I would like you to explain in precise details how humans are able to change the inputs without affecting the output when it comes to the climate?
This post was edited on 4/24/24 at 1:11 pm
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
15388 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 1:21 pm to
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There are plenty of reasons it is warming up currently, man being among them
The fact you can make that statement means you’re not actually a climate crazy
Posted by CrappyPants
Member since Apr 2021
697 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 1:24 pm to
So nothing is changing? Got it.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118760 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 5:57 pm to
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Did you calculate for compounding interest as more heat is trapped in the oceans?


Doesn't matter. The heat capacity is the amount of heat required to change the temperature of a given amount of matter by one degree. It matters not where the energy comes from or in what form. Specific molecules can only hold so much heat (which is a measure of vibration) until the temp is raise one degree as defined by heat capacity. When you have a mixture of molecules the total heat capacity is simply a composite of the mixture.

For example the heat capacity of air with CO2 at 400 ppm is 1.00955823 kilojoule per kelvin. When CO2 is 2000 ppm and the other constituents are decreased proportionally to the increase in CO2 the heat capacity is slightly lowered to 1.00929707817216 kilojoules per kelvin.

Because the Cp is slightly lowered with an increase in CO2 concentration the temp can be raise one degree with less energy when the atmosphere mixture contains 2000 ppm versus 400 ppm.

These are very basic calculations. I would be doing the same type of calculations to size a boiler or heat exchanger.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
12490 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 6:01 pm to
Beef prices will be the new crawfish prices if this becomes a thing.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
19474 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 6:05 pm to
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They’re are never right about anything. They predicted 3-5 major hurricanes the last few years and it has been relatively quiet.


Interestingly, the climate sims predict that warming will take place toward the poles with little to none toward the equator. That would put less contrasting energy in the system and result in milder weather.
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