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re: City of New Orleans again pushes back deadline for bids on Confederate monument

Posted on 4/21/16 at 6:56 pm to
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 4/21/16 at 6:56 pm to
the bidders will be revealed at the bid opening
there won't be a bid opening because there won't be any bidders based on this bid set. If the city wants them gone they will hire an engineer to design the lifts. Until they do the statues will stay where they are
Posted by Cincinnati Bowtie
Sparta
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 4/21/16 at 6:56 pm to
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I refuse to visit the city until the statues come down and all the confederate jasmine is removed.
That'll show em! Wonder if the Tourism Commission is aware of this? I bet nobody shows up for Jazz Fest this year because of the statues, too.
Posted by Hammertime
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Posted on 4/21/16 at 7:08 pm to
Seems like you know a little bit about it. What would an insurance company's perspective be on something like this?
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 4/22/16 at 8:27 am to
It depends
the city owns the monuments (I assume)
the engineer carries errors and omissions for his design
the crane company carries GL

so it would depend on what or who caused the damage

If it were me taking them down I would insist on being held harmless for any damage as long as I followed the lift design
Posted by GEAUXT
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 4/22/16 at 8:29 am to
Just wait, some DBE business will step in and be more than happy to rip them down
Posted by cgrand
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Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 4/22/16 at 9:36 am to
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Two of the contractors seemed as worried about the safety of the statues as they were about their own security, since the winning bidder will bear the liability for any damage to the monuments. One asked whether the city had schematic drawings showing how the statues are attached to their bases. Without them, it would be hard, if not impossible, to remove the statues in such a way as to be absolutely sure they would not break, he said, adding that the risk of damage was particularly high with regard to the Beauregard monument. "It was constructed to be placed, not to be removed," he said. "You guys are going to have some damage." Smith said that the city would disseminate whatever information it had regarding the statues, but that, at least in the case of the Lee monument, there aren't any known plans detailing how it is anchored to column. In the end, Smith said, it is up to the contractor to remove the monuments safely, transport them to their eventual storage facility in the city, unload them, and put them into the warehouse. The city has not yet revealed the exact location of the warehouse. "We expect the statues to be removed and delivered in the state that they are in," he said.
Posted by Cdonaldson27
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2015
1055 posts
Posted on 4/22/16 at 9:42 am to
I'm a contractor and you can put a price on the engineering to perform.

You can't put a price on crazy and dangerous people who have no respect for life.

No thanks.
Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 4/22/16 at 9:47 am to
I just don't get it. Leave these statues alone and put up any statue you want that represents your interests.

By removing the confederate statues they are setting the precedent to have any statue they may put up removed one day.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 4/22/16 at 9:52 am to
Nah. The Nagin statue will never be taken down.
Posted by Solo
Member since Aug 2008
8245 posts
Posted on 4/22/16 at 9:52 am to
NOLA native. I have totally switched sides on this issue. Want to see the statues come down just to piss off all the rednecks from around the state.
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
32599 posts
Posted on 4/22/16 at 9:56 am to
I'll go put in a bid to remove the statues. They aren't going to like the number.
Posted by Cdonaldson27
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2015
1055 posts
Posted on 4/22/16 at 10:02 am to
When your 2 million dollar crane goes up in flames due to Molotov cocktails, let me know how that works out.
Posted by Cold Cous Cous
Bucktown, La.
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 4/22/16 at 10:05 am to
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TigerWise

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Posted by Cold Cous Cous
Bucktown, La.
Member since Oct 2003
15051 posts
Posted on 4/22/16 at 10:10 am to
quote:

I'll go put in a bid to remove the statues. They aren't going to like the number.


Brilliant thought - bid it out at some lowball number then just go on GoFundMe or kickstarter or one of those bullshite websites and put out a "call for action" to have volunteers from around the country down to NO to "fight systemic oppression" by taking down the statutes. Of course volunteers must provide their own transportation, tools, lodging, etc., but we'll make a couple gallons of Gatorade and print some shirts to hand out. I guarantee you'll get hundreds of Oberlin grads coming down to chip away at the damn things for you.
Posted by Hammertime
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Member since Jan 2012
43030 posts
Posted on 4/22/16 at 10:14 am to
I wouldn't touch them out of principle, but that is most definitely a good reason not to even waste time bidding
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Leave these statues alone and put up any statue you want that represents your interests.
I'd support that idea. The problem is that the city has no money since it's been run by Democrats for so long.

Do yall honestly think the $200k donation is gonna cover costs for removing these things? No way. It'll end up costing several million dollars, and when nobody forks over the rest of the cash, it'll come out of the city's budget....just like mitch explicitly said it would not
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 4/22/16 at 10:16 am to


yep, i was just sitting back watching how many people tigerwise caught myself.

pretty comical. you'd think people who have been around on this site for awhile aren't that gullible...
Posted by tigerfan182
Franklin, Tn
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 4/22/16 at 11:38 am to
I am sure you will be missed
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
38944 posts
Posted on 4/22/16 at 11:46 am to
and one more bites on a bare hook...
seriously people did the "confederate jasmine" line not clue you in that he was joking?

good lord
Posted by pmacneworleans
Member since Dec 2013
1991 posts
Posted on 4/22/16 at 12:26 pm to
There's a school of thought that Mitch really doesn't care if the statues ever come down (thats why the bid specs are geared toward making it impossible for any contractor to put a real # on the table). He's playing to his base, and if he ultimately has to admit defeat on the issue, he has strawmen he can point the finger at as to why.
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43030 posts
Posted on 4/22/16 at 12:29 pm to
He's vying for an appointed national position. That's the reason for the "gun control measures" he had to have a press conference about yesterday
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