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re: China launches 4th helicopter carrier
Posted on 12/17/23 at 3:10 pm to bobBoxer
Posted on 12/17/23 at 3:10 pm to bobBoxer
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they are supposedly building a nuclear carrier also, but I think that is probably a big waste of resources for them, especially if they are just going across the Taiwan strait,
The big flattops they’re building aren’t for Taiwan. They’re to block US Navy carrier groups farther out in the Pacific, so that we can’t interfere when they make the inevitable move on ole’ Formosa.
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Posted on 12/17/23 at 3:15 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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because other countries cannot figure out how to launch a plane
I always assumed it was strictly economic. The cost to build a real carrier are astronomical. Add in the costs to operate it,
Add in the costs to defend it,
The cost of a carrier escort group is why countries that have access to the f-35 VTOL, (NATO countries, Japan, South Korea, Australia) are just building helicopter carriers, they can built in half the time of a regular aircraft carrier, way less expensive, and just more versatile. If you want to put f-35s on it and have it operate as a small aircraft carrier you can do that, if you want to put helicopters on it and it operate as a heli carrier you can do that, if you want to split it up you can do that, add in that are most heli carriers are amphibious and launch marine operations, most countries will operate these in the future
Posted on 12/17/23 at 3:19 pm to DesScorp
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they are supposedly building a nuclear carrier also, but I think that is probably a big waste of resources for them, especially if they are just going across the Taiwan strait,
The big flattops they’re building aren’t for Taiwan. They’re to block US Navy carrier groups farther out in the Pacific, so that we can’t interfere when they make the inevitable move on ole’ Formosa.
That actually makes a lot of sense
Posted on 12/17/23 at 3:19 pm to bobBoxer
Large fleet aircraft carriers are obsolete now just like the Battleship was in 1941. They're too expensive to build, maintain and defend. And if you lose one its such a blow to your fleet and national pride that it might lose the whole war for you. With hyper accurate long range missiles that be launched from surface ships and submarines I don't see the point of aircraft carriers anymore other than the fact that they're really cool.
Posted on 12/17/23 at 3:21 pm to Twincam
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Looks like a massive piece of shite.
This is what happens when you order ships from Temu.
Posted on 12/17/23 at 3:32 pm to DesScorp
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The big flattops they’re building aren’t for Taiwan. They’re to block US Navy carrier groups farther out in the Pacific, so that we can’t interfere when they make the inevitable move on ole’ Formosa.
Posted on 12/17/23 at 3:38 pm to bobBoxer
Will make a very nice artificial reef
Posted on 12/17/23 at 3:45 pm to Locoguan0
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Reminds me of some of the WWII Japanese carriers which were just old battleships with a flight deck added.
Well since most Japanese pilots didn’t know how to land and were flying suicide missions, all they needed to do was to get the plane airborne.
Posted on 12/17/23 at 7:09 pm to Scuttle But
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I don't see the point of aircraft carriers anymore
Because nothing else can deliver the amount of conventional firepower to the other side of the world in as compact a package as a fleet carrier.
A couple of aircraft carriers parked off someone's coast has more firepower than some countries air forces...
Posted on 12/17/23 at 9:04 pm to redstick13
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Nothing the Chinese build should worry anyone.
While there is probably some truth to this, it also reeks of institutional arrogance that leads to disaster. It's the same type of arrogance and underestimation of an adversary that leads to Pearl Harbor. Or Little Big Horn. Or 9/11, even.
You better take this threat seriously and make sure your countermeasures are overwhelmingly effective.
Posted on 12/17/23 at 9:45 pm to cable
By the looks of it it spews a lot of smoke as well.....a sitting duck
Posted on 12/17/23 at 9:48 pm to Jobin
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China is outpacing us in every facet of warfare excluding submarine development.
Posted on 12/17/23 at 9:51 pm to notiger1997
Unless the Chinese can put nuclear powered carriers ....anything....out there, they cannot challenge anything the US puts out in the water
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