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re: Chicago police release video related to shooting of unarmed man

Posted on 8/5/16 at 1:16 pm to
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
22045 posts
Posted on 8/5/16 at 1:16 pm to
quote:

As a reminder, Chicago police policy prohibits the use of shooting at a car when the only danger presented is the car it's self.
link? That doesn't sound right, as evidenced by the attack in Nice, France...
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
116318 posts
Posted on 8/5/16 at 1:16 pm to
BOOM
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85134 posts
Posted on 8/5/16 at 1:18 pm to
From his link:

quote:

A sworn member is justified in using force likely to cause death or great bodily harm only when he or she reasonably believes that such force is necessary:

1.to prevent death or great bodily harm to the sworn member or to another person, or:

2.to prevent an arrest from being defeated by resistance or escape and the sworn member reasonably believes that the person to be arrested:

a.has committed or has attempted to commit a forcible felony which involves theinfliction, threatened infliction, or threatened use of physical force likely to causedeath or great bodily harm or;

b.is attempting to escape by use of a deadly weapon or;c.otherwise indicates that he or she will endanger human life or inflict great bodily harmunless arrested without dela
This post was edited on 8/5/16 at 1:19 pm
Posted by meaux5
New York, NY
Member since Sep 2010
11011 posts
Posted on 8/5/16 at 1:20 pm to
Because narrative
Posted by Ash Williams
South of i-10
Member since May 2009
18153 posts
Posted on 8/5/16 at 1:21 pm to
quote:

The policy itself. You must go to the second section called deadly force.




Just noticed the last line in the link to the policy:

quote:

Sworn members will not unreasonably endanger themselves or another person to conform to the restrictions of this directive


So its policy, but dont endanger yourself or others by trying to conform to this policy

"Suspect is flying towards me and my partner at a high rate of speed. Policy says I can't shoot into a car. But by choosing not to shoot in the car, i could endanger myself or my partner. So its policy to say frick that other part of the policy"
Posted by Happygilmore
Happy Place
Member since Mar 2009
1810 posts
Posted on 8/5/16 at 1:25 pm to
quote:

It drives me crazy that black people apparently always pick the wrong shootings to lose their shite over. This one is murky at best. Michael Brown was complete bullshite.

Pick one where its actually bad.

they cant. if they pick a legit one, everyone (blacks and whites) agree, and they have nothing to riot over. they have to riot when they feel slighted, and they will only get that by picking a justified shooting, latching onto it, and say they are slighted when white people say frick off, the dude deserved to be shot.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85134 posts
Posted on 8/5/16 at 1:26 pm to
Exactly.

The policy has stipulations to protect the safety of officers and the community in any situation.
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
79349 posts
Posted on 8/5/16 at 1:27 pm to
quote:

[He was unarmed].


3,000lbs of metal coming straight for you is armed.
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
40491 posts
Posted on 8/5/16 at 1:31 pm to
Haven't read everything but what if the cop was shooting at the tires and not at the driver?
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
116318 posts
Posted on 8/5/16 at 1:34 pm to
When the fatal shooting occurred, he wasn't in the vehicle, he was on foot.
Posted by Walt OReilly
Poplarville, MS
Member since Oct 2005
124686 posts
Posted on 8/5/16 at 1:36 pm to
RIP Paul

The good always die young. You'll be missed Mr. Oneal
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
116318 posts
Posted on 8/5/16 at 1:42 pm to
Posted by Jack Bauer7
Member since Jun 2012
5029 posts
Posted on 8/5/16 at 1:46 pm to
i think chicago could take it worse on the chin than ferguson
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
21865 posts
Posted on 8/5/16 at 1:46 pm to
Watch the video...the gunfire is erratic as shite
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
40491 posts
Posted on 8/5/16 at 1:51 pm to
I know. I am just talking about the first part. The claim is that act that didn't follow procedure led to the rest.
Posted by 805tiger
Member since Oct 2011
4512 posts
Posted on 8/5/16 at 1:51 pm to
People on here said the same thing about the Laquan McDonald shooting but nothing happened. And that one was 100 times worse than this one.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
99309 posts
Posted on 8/5/16 at 1:53 pm to
After this, there could potentially be some violence in Southside Chicago this weekend.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28712 posts
Posted on 8/5/16 at 2:01 pm to
quote:

After this, there could potentially be some violence in Southside Chicago this weekend.
Posted by beauchristopher
new orleans
Member since Jan 2008
66198 posts
Posted on 8/5/16 at 2:21 pm to
quote:

The cops unloading their guns on the car were absolutely fricking careless with where they were shooting. At one point I am pretty sure they were shooting at each other. Fatal shooting aside, these idiots shouldn't be allowed to carry a gun.


Yeah that's a problem.

What if they have the wrong car.. seen it happen before..

You don't just open fire like that into a car.

I don't know what all went down before the video.. but didn't seem to warrant that type of action.
Posted by Boxcar
Richmond VA
Member since Mar 2016
900 posts
Posted on 8/5/16 at 2:31 pm to
Dindu nuffin!
Mufuh's b targeting me.
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