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re: Can someone help me explain how people are affording a house in today's market?

Posted on 4/3/23 at 3:38 pm to
Posted by SPEEDY
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Posted by Indefatigable
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Posted on 4/3/23 at 3:38 pm to
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When we were buying a house, we were able to make cash offers and closing in 21 days because we were already guaranteed the loan amount through pre-approvals.

So maybe I am just an idiot, but are you saying that you were able to make a "cash" offer just because you were pre-approved for a loan?

If so, that explains why so many houses are getting "cash" offers. Previously I considered a cash offer one that did not include financing,, i.e. the seller bought the house with their own liquid cash.
This post was edited on 4/3/23 at 3:40 pm
Posted by Jcorye1
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Posted on 4/3/23 at 3:38 pm to
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Worry about you. Makes life very easy


Problem is it's turning what should be a one month task into a second job. I don't want to waste one day a week and every weekend looking at and trying to buy a goddamn house.
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
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Posted on 4/3/23 at 3:39 pm to
Houses here is Little Rock have been popping up between 750,000 to 1.2 and are selling in a week. It's baffling to me. I can't put my finger on it. In my gut something feels off though.
Posted by RT1941
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Posted on 4/3/23 at 3:43 pm to
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If not, then people have WAY more money that I've been led to believe.
People have way more money than their "bring home pay" from their job. If you aren't hustling to make $$ on the side, then you'll forever be in that 2,000 sqft house.
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
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Posted on 4/3/23 at 3:51 pm to
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but the housing market is just dumb right now in BR.




It's dumb everywhere.

Anything south of $250k still needs work done and is in a below average neighborhood. Between the mortgage rate, insurance, repairs and property taxes, it's waaaay cheaper to rent where I'm at right now.
Posted by Loup
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Posted on 4/3/23 at 3:55 pm to
I live in a small house and don't have a lot of shite to fill it with.

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I just don't get it. My wife and I make $140k combined/year, and we have a $1200 mortgage for a 2200 square foot house. I can't imagine being on the market right now, and I feel like we make decent money.


I think I would trade my $600 mortgage for yours if it meant I got the extra 1k sf as well. It's nice not having a big note but sometimes the house gets cramped.
This post was edited on 4/3/23 at 3:57 pm
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
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Posted on 4/3/23 at 3:55 pm to
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but are you saying that you were able to make a "cash" offer just because you were pre-approved for a loan?

Yes. I even joked with my mortgage broker if they were going to give us a duffel bag to bring to closing.

He told me that since we already went through the lending process, as long as I put an offer within xx days, I would be able to make a "cash offer" because all of the underwriting would be done. I essentially "have the cash" in an account to be withdrawn once we closed.

Was 8+ years ago but I recall a conversation about a cashier's check that should have been sent to the closing attorney's office the morning of the closing. It had not arrived before closing, so there were conversations about having to reschedule. After a bunch of phone calls from the closing attorney and my broker; we ended up proceeding with the paperwork, and the check was couriered over during the process.
This post was edited on 4/3/23 at 4:00 pm
Posted by r0cky1
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Posted on 4/3/23 at 3:55 pm to
It’s honestly Impossible for most people that I know in their 20s. A very common theme I’ve seen is taking an interest free loan/very low rate from parents to pay the down payment or whole house.
Posted by OceanMan
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Posted on 4/3/23 at 3:59 pm to
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What I don’t get is how so many people are getting new houses, new cars, and taking family vacations.


My wife keeps wondering when her Denali is coming because every other mom drives around in one.

I’ve explained to her where we land in the income distribution and tell her they are doing without something that we have, most likely just actually saving money.

It’s hard man. Just trying to do the right thing and get ahead and not live for the debt I owe. Might as well have a big home loan, I don’t see them decreasing with all other costs increasing
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 4/3/23 at 4:00 pm to
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He told me that since we already went through the lending process, as long as I put an offer within xx days, I would be able to make a "cash offer" because all of the underwriting would be done. I essentially "have the cash" in an account to be withdrawn once we closed.


That explains all of the cash offers I hear about then. Not going to lie, I feel a little better about myself now.
Posted by 8lue
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Posted on 4/3/23 at 4:00 pm to
Oil and gas baby oil and gas
Posted by whoa
New Orleans
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Posted on 4/3/23 at 4:01 pm to
I just assume people are in massive amounts of debt. No thanks.
Posted by White Bear
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Posted on 4/3/23 at 4:01 pm to
Turns out I quali for S8.
Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
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Posted on 4/3/23 at 4:02 pm to
There is a massive transfer of wealth taking place from older boomers to their offspring… purchasing their homes is a huge part of that.
Posted by el Gaucho
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Posted on 4/3/23 at 4:06 pm to
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Turns out I quali for S8.

Stop bragging
Posted by RT1941
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Posted on 4/3/23 at 4:08 pm to
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I'm seeing people sell their houses in California or New York for $1,000,000+ and then buy twice as much house for $750,000 in Georgia.
My 53 yr old cousin (originally from Georgia) has lived in San Diego for 25+ yrs. He sold his 40 yr old house, 3BR/2BA 1,100SF for $1.8MM and moved back to Georgia. Paid $850,000 cash for a 3,000sf + 10 acres and plans to work as a military contractor until retirement in a couple of years.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
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Posted on 4/3/23 at 4:08 pm to
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I’ve explained to her where we land in the income distribution and tell her they are doing without something that we have, most likely just actually saving money.

Just had a similar conversation with my wife because of the number of houses in our neighborhood either being torn down and rebuild or gutted and flipped. Had to remind her that we automatically budget for vacations, maxing retirement accounts, and kids college funds as if they are mandatory expenses each month. Showed her that we are now saving more for these line items now, than she was earning just a few years ago.
Posted by MrSpock
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Posted on 4/3/23 at 4:09 pm to
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then you'll forever be in that 2,000 sqft house.


Nothing wrong with a 2000 sqft house.
Posted by deltaland
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Posted on 4/3/23 at 4:10 pm to
Families aren’t buying these homes. Groups like blackrock are buying them at inflated prices to price out middle America. They then rent out the homes to middle America as a long term investment.

You will own nothing and be happy
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