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California exports its poor to Texas, while wealthier people move in
Posted on 3/13/17 at 9:10 am
Posted on 3/13/17 at 9:10 am
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Every year from 2000 through 2015, more people left California than moved in from other states. This migration was not spread evenly across all income groups, a Sacramento Bee review of U.S. Census Bureau data found. The people leaving tend to be relatively poor, and many lack college degrees. Move higher up the income spectrum, and slightly more people are coming than going. About 2.5 million people living close to the official poverty line left California for other states from 2005 through 2015, while 1.7 million people at that income level moved in from other states – for a net loss of 800,000. During the same period, the state experienced a net gain of about 20,000 residents earning at least five times the poverty rate – or $100,000 for a family of three. “There was really nothing left for me in California,” said Kundurazieff, who also writes a blog about his cats. “The cost of living was high. The rent was high. The job market was debatable.” Not surprisingly, the state’s exodus of poor people is notable in Los Angeles and San Francisco counties, which combined experienced a net loss of 250,000 such residents from 2005 through 2015.
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Friends in Texas suggested he relocate. He now works at a Walmart in Houston, making a little north of $10 an hour. He works 40 hours a week, riding his bike about 7 miles to work many days. He does not pay state income tax. His rent is just over $500, with utilities. About the same time that Kundurazieff was leaving, Tamara and Kit Keane were arriving from Oklahoma. Both had been working on their doctorate degrees at Oklahoma universities, Kit in biology and Tamara in education. The Keanes already knew California. Kit, 34, was born and raised in Sacramento. Tamara, 31, spent most of her life in Southern California. They met at UC Davis about a decade ago. With graduate degrees, they had options. They liked the cost of living in Oklahoma and bought a two-bedroom house with a backyard for the bargain basement cost of $121,000. But they wanted to come back to California, for its beauty and to be near family. “We knew coming here, we would have to make a lot more money to live a similar lifestyle,” Tamara Keane said.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 9:13 am to RedRifle
Kind of what Texas does to Louisiana...
Posted on 3/13/17 at 9:14 am to RedRifle
More taxes, less services, and less income mobility. Why move to California again?
Posted on 3/13/17 at 9:16 am to NYNolaguy1
Because it's some of the most gorgeous scenery in the U.S. there?
To many....having that so close by is a huge appeal.
To many....having that so close by is a huge appeal.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 9:17 am to NYNolaguy1
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More taxes, less services, and less income mobility. Why move to California again?
The weather, more job opps, more things to do...the fact that you have to basically be a millionaire to afford a house is absurd to me though. Will never understand that.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 9:17 am to NYNolaguy1
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More taxes, less services, and less income mobility. Why move to California again?
I don't know. You tell me.
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1. California
Population: 39.1 million
Entrepreneurship rank: 4
Patent creation rank: 1
Posted on 3/13/17 at 9:20 am to RedRifle
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The leading destination for those leaving California is Texas, with about 293,000 economically disadvantaged residents leaving and about 137,000 coming for a net loss of 156,000 from 2005 through 2015. Next up are states surrounding California; in order, Arizona, Nevada and Oregon.
The bad part about this is that Californians leave the state because of the high costs, but they bring their shitty politics to states that are cheaper to live in because of fiscally conservative politics.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 9:20 am to lsunurse
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Because it's some of the most gorgeous scenery in the U.S. there?
That's not unique to Cali... Most of the west has beautiful scenery... Colorado, Utah, Idaho, Montana... And the cost of living is not that of Cali.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 9:23 am to NYNolaguy1
None of those states have a coast though, a huge part of California's beauty is its coast.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 9:23 am to The Pirate King
quote:household income of 150k and you can live a decent middle class lifestyle with beautiful weather year round
the fact that you have to basically be a millionaire to afford a house is absurd to me though
Posted on 3/13/17 at 9:23 am to RedRifle
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California exports its poor to Texas, while wealthier people move in
Eh, not worried.
I'd rather live in the state with the highest real GDP per capita than look at a bunch of bull shite cliffs and oceans and be surrounded by people who think I'm a lunatic because I own guns to shoot birds while they're in season.
Texas is also still well on it's way to becoming the largest economy in the Union.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 9:23 am to RedRifle
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Entrepreneurship rank: 4
Patent creation rank: 1
Sounds like a liberal Utopia.
What could go wrong?
Posted on 3/13/17 at 9:25 am to The Pirate King
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the fact that you have to basically be a millionaire to afford a house is absurd to me though. Will never understand that.
I'll never forget a good friend of mine still moved to Texas when he was a junior in high school and they lived in a solid house. Probably a $250K house here in rural Texas and he told me that his parents and their family never could have dreamed of owning such a thing before they were relocated for work.
Like it was something that seemed to be truly unattainable to them.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 9:26 am to lsunurse
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huge part of California's beauty is its coast.
I guess that consoles the poor couples that can't afford million dollar homes in Cali.
They get to enjoy the beauty so long as they keep paying the landlord.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 9:27 am to Pilot Tiger
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household income of 150k and you can live a decent middle class lifestyle with beautiful weather year round
I bet Compton and Oakland have beautiful weather even in the hood.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 9:35 am to RedRifle
There really should be state citizenship.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 9:37 am to RedRifle
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There was really nothing left for me in California,” said Kundurazieff, who also writes a blog about his cats. “The cost of living was high. The rent was high. The job market was debatable.
Well when your main marketable skill is blogging about cats, I can see how the opportunities would be slim.
This post was edited on 3/13/17 at 9:38 am
Posted on 3/13/17 at 9:39 am to fr33manator
Cat blogger....man that guy must be crushing it in the dating department
Posted on 3/13/17 at 9:40 am to lsunurse
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Cat blogger....man that guy must be crushing it in the dating department
You could say he's crawling in pussy.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 9:41 am to fr33manator
Lobbed that softball right to you
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