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Breaking News: being Gay does not mean you support trans/ long read
Posted on 7/20/23 at 12:18 pm
Posted on 7/20/23 at 12:18 pm
Guys, I have lived in Louisiana all of my life apart from a couple internships in TX.
Among the many other characteristics of my personality : outgoing, history buff, athletic, brother , son , fisherman, wildlife enthusiast. I happen to be a gay person. I was raised in the catholic church( never been abused in any way , age 0-18 , hate that I have to point that out ) before I took a break from going to church in college. But still consider myself a religious person.
I played sports most of my life, I realized I was gay early teens maybe, but I wasn’t gunna tell anybody that til I was 18!! I just thought that’s how it worked, then in college you could be a gay person. Anyway, told closest friends early college and it went really well. Think I told them after we ate mushrooms that one time. Never really felt a reason to “come out ‘ to my parents. They’re retired and I’m sure they’ve figured it out . They would support either way as long as I’m successful, law abiding citizen.
I’ll cut to the chase; in college I realized I wasn’t going to change into a “ flamboyant “gay person who goes to drag shows, or gay dance clubs. I was the same guy I was in high school, just kinda of a shy, nice guy, with career goals, places I wanted to travel, just a “ normal person” my age who likes outdoor stuff, enjoys a concert, football fan. Liked beer and dive bars, playing pool. Who just happens to be gay. I thought I would have gay friends, but I still have all my same friends from high school . Everything is fine. And I have a challenging job which I enjoy.
I must have gotten out of college at the right now. Bc I think the whole lgbtq thing blew up at across college campus’s nation wide after I left . It was never throw in my face like it is now.
The main point is that: I identify as a gay male. That’s it. Personally lesbian, bi , trans, queer means nothing to my personal identity.
Drag queens / trans have nothing to do with personal identity. I don’t get it.
To be honestly. I have never understood why some men dress up as women. It’s disgusting to be me, personally.
Trans: is completely strange , alien , and baffling to me. I don’t mean that as hate speech. I was just raised catholic in south louisiana and that’s just not something that fits into what I was taught. But Adults are free do as they want .
I am a very understanding , level headed person: I had heard some terrible comments as it relates to gay people, etc so I have pretty thick skin.
Many on this board, but the good out weights the bad here, i laugh my arse of here , even thought Im more political left leaning than most here.
My point is that, please stop making the assumption trans, cross dressing, gentian mutilation: is something that is normalized or understood by your average gay person.
Speaking from my own point of view as a gay person: trans/ crossdressing is completely different than being a gay person, and I personally don’t suppose it . Lesbians , yes I can understand.
There’s 2 genders period. Boys need to always use the boys bathroom no matter how bad they think they are a girl, it’s simple physiology , boys can only complete against boys in sports, that’s only fair. Yes I believe in gay marriage.
Lastly, the whole groomers things is disgusting and I think it happens also with straight people. I fundamentally believe there are more straight sexual predators than gay, since there are simply more straight persons: meaning being gay doesn’t make one any more prone to being a sexual predator than being born straight.
TL/ DR
I really don’t mean to sound like a bigot, I been exposed to alot of the world. However as a “normal” , straight laced professional , who happens to be gay:
I have no idea the difference between trans, transvestite , drag queens, your pronouns, blah blah all that other crap, don’t really care, Society is becoming soft , thin skinned. Don’t care to understand it either. It’s strange to me as well. But to each his own.
To me, lumping in gay and trans is
Like lumping thurgood Marshall and a homeless , toothless crackhead just because they are both black.
Thanks for coming to my Tedtalk.
Among the many other characteristics of my personality : outgoing, history buff, athletic, brother , son , fisherman, wildlife enthusiast. I happen to be a gay person. I was raised in the catholic church( never been abused in any way , age 0-18 , hate that I have to point that out ) before I took a break from going to church in college. But still consider myself a religious person.
I played sports most of my life, I realized I was gay early teens maybe, but I wasn’t gunna tell anybody that til I was 18!! I just thought that’s how it worked, then in college you could be a gay person. Anyway, told closest friends early college and it went really well. Think I told them after we ate mushrooms that one time. Never really felt a reason to “come out ‘ to my parents. They’re retired and I’m sure they’ve figured it out . They would support either way as long as I’m successful, law abiding citizen.
I’ll cut to the chase; in college I realized I wasn’t going to change into a “ flamboyant “gay person who goes to drag shows, or gay dance clubs. I was the same guy I was in high school, just kinda of a shy, nice guy, with career goals, places I wanted to travel, just a “ normal person” my age who likes outdoor stuff, enjoys a concert, football fan. Liked beer and dive bars, playing pool. Who just happens to be gay. I thought I would have gay friends, but I still have all my same friends from high school . Everything is fine. And I have a challenging job which I enjoy.
I must have gotten out of college at the right now. Bc I think the whole lgbtq thing blew up at across college campus’s nation wide after I left . It was never throw in my face like it is now.
The main point is that: I identify as a gay male. That’s it. Personally lesbian, bi , trans, queer means nothing to my personal identity.
Drag queens / trans have nothing to do with personal identity. I don’t get it.
To be honestly. I have never understood why some men dress up as women. It’s disgusting to be me, personally.
Trans: is completely strange , alien , and baffling to me. I don’t mean that as hate speech. I was just raised catholic in south louisiana and that’s just not something that fits into what I was taught. But Adults are free do as they want .
I am a very understanding , level headed person: I had heard some terrible comments as it relates to gay people, etc so I have pretty thick skin.
Many on this board, but the good out weights the bad here, i laugh my arse of here , even thought Im more political left leaning than most here.
My point is that, please stop making the assumption trans, cross dressing, gentian mutilation: is something that is normalized or understood by your average gay person.
Speaking from my own point of view as a gay person: trans/ crossdressing is completely different than being a gay person, and I personally don’t suppose it . Lesbians , yes I can understand.
There’s 2 genders period. Boys need to always use the boys bathroom no matter how bad they think they are a girl, it’s simple physiology , boys can only complete against boys in sports, that’s only fair. Yes I believe in gay marriage.
Lastly, the whole groomers things is disgusting and I think it happens also with straight people. I fundamentally believe there are more straight sexual predators than gay, since there are simply more straight persons: meaning being gay doesn’t make one any more prone to being a sexual predator than being born straight.
TL/ DR
I really don’t mean to sound like a bigot, I been exposed to alot of the world. However as a “normal” , straight laced professional , who happens to be gay:
I have no idea the difference between trans, transvestite , drag queens, your pronouns, blah blah all that other crap, don’t really care, Society is becoming soft , thin skinned. Don’t care to understand it either. It’s strange to me as well. But to each his own.
To me, lumping in gay and trans is
Like lumping thurgood Marshall and a homeless , toothless crackhead just because they are both black.
Thanks for coming to my Tedtalk.
Posted on 7/20/23 at 12:20 pm to Bison
No, of course it doesn't. Every gay person I know hates the movement.
If you vote Democrat, then that's a different story.
If you vote Democrat, then that's a different story.
Posted on 7/20/23 at 12:22 pm to Bison
Can you do me a favor and post this on the PT? I would really appreciate that and think they would, as well.
Posted on 7/20/23 at 12:23 pm to Bison
A gay friend of ours is a huge Conservative and actually supported Trump.
He got hate from all sides.
He got hate from all sides.
Posted on 7/20/23 at 12:26 pm to Bison
I commend your elaborate troll attempt
Posted on 7/20/23 at 12:26 pm to Bison
quote:
To me, lumping in gay and trans is
Like lumping thurgood Marshall and a homeless , toothless crackhead just because they are both black.
Yup. Being confused on who you find attractive isn't the same as questioning how God made your man parts.
Posted on 7/20/23 at 12:26 pm to Bison
Don't tell us, tell the corporations, US government, gay advocacy and media groups, etc. that combine being gay and being trans under one big tent
We don't really have much to do with it
We don't really have much to do with it
Posted on 7/20/23 at 12:32 pm to Bison
I work with a guy like you.. He’s gay, from Opelousas he grew up hunting and fishing. He’s a conservative Trump voter and hates being lumped into the LTGBQ bs.
Posted on 7/20/23 at 12:33 pm to Bison
quote:
My point is that, please stop making the assumption trans, cross dressing, gentian mutilation: is something that is normalized or understood by your average gay person.
If more gay people like you would speak up and speak out about this, then more people would agree with you. But there are zero to few instances of people speaking out.
I agree with you too. It is bizarre to group all these letters together into some monoculture. Wtf does sexual preference have to do with gender identity?
Posted on 7/20/23 at 12:33 pm to saint tiger225
quote:
Can you do me a favor and post this on the PT? I would really appreciate that and think they would, as well.
Posted on 7/20/23 at 12:37 pm to Bison
quote:
I identify as a gay male. That’s it. Personally lesbian, bi , trans, queer means nothing to my personal identity.
Drag queens / trans have nothing to do with personal identity. I don’t get it.
You do you bro. If it wasn't for the gay sex, it'd be nice to have someone helpful around to do chores.
Posted on 7/20/23 at 12:40 pm to Bison
quote:
happen to be a gay person. I was raised in the catholic church( never been abused in any way , age 0-18 , hate that I have to point that out ) before I took a break from going to church in college. But still consider myself a religious person.
You’re confused. All of it is a mental health issue, the trans ones are just further down the spectrum than you
Posted on 7/20/23 at 12:41 pm to Bison
quote:
Bison
There are going to be a ton of jokes in this thread but
Posted on 7/20/23 at 12:41 pm to Bison
The fake gays and fake lgbtq people are what ruin the reputation for the real gays like you.
The movement we’ve seen the last several years, seems counterproductive from the outside looking in. Originally it seemed like gays wanted to have the same rights as heteros, and as a conservative, I agree with that. Y’all should have the same rights. If you’re not affecting other peoples lives in a negative way, then legalizing a certain thing is the right thing to do. And I think many of y’all do think that.
I guess the movement was hijacked for political purposes from the left and it’s became a force our views down everyone else’s throats kind of thing. A power trip. Doesn’t make much sense to me how so many people can be on board with that too. It’s just counterproductive. Idk if this is a troll or what, but a good post, and one that is very informative.
The movement we’ve seen the last several years, seems counterproductive from the outside looking in. Originally it seemed like gays wanted to have the same rights as heteros, and as a conservative, I agree with that. Y’all should have the same rights. If you’re not affecting other peoples lives in a negative way, then legalizing a certain thing is the right thing to do. And I think many of y’all do think that.
I guess the movement was hijacked for political purposes from the left and it’s became a force our views down everyone else’s throats kind of thing. A power trip. Doesn’t make much sense to me how so many people can be on board with that too. It’s just counterproductive. Idk if this is a troll or what, but a good post, and one that is very informative.
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