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re: Bicyclist Hit by Motorist on Natchez Parkway. Video
Posted on 7/9/17 at 2:00 pm to bamafan1001
Posted on 7/9/17 at 2:00 pm to bamafan1001
quote:thanks for that analysis.
Plus cycling is a stupid and boring "sport". I dont have to navigate around people playing baseball or basketball on the highway.
Yet I bet you spend hours sitting in the water with a cooler of beer in 100 degree heat trying to catch one fish that you throw back immediately.
There's a reason most riders are doctors or other professionals. Enjoy your bass boat.
Eta I hit 65mph bombing down Roan mountain on tires no thicker than my thumb with 130psi air pressure on a bike made of carbon that doesn't weigh an ounce over 12lbs. If that's boring then I would love to know what you find exciting.
This post was edited on 7/9/17 at 2:28 pm
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Posted on 7/9/17 at 2:56 pm to CAD703X
haha ok man we can agree to disagree
Posted on 7/9/17 at 3:46 pm to Topwater Trout
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There are other places to get their fitness on that are much safer. Most, not all, are a nuisance. Its pretty stupid to use the fitness excuse to ride on public streets and risk getting hit by a car to be healthy
I just hate when someone who is working for a living has to wait behind a group of cyclists who won't get over. My sympathies always go to the ones who are working.
Posted on 7/9/17 at 4:25 pm to chinhoyang
I hate it when someone's job requires them to be in a vehicle at 9am on a Saturday morning in a national park and there are cyclists on the road lol
Posted on 7/9/17 at 5:35 pm to CAD703X
Bam! Arrested and lost his job
must have been a special summer school job he was going to on a Saturday morning
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An administrator of a private school in Nashville has been placed on a leave of absence after his arrest in connection with the hit-and-run of a bicyclist Saturday on Natchez Trace Parkway in Williamson County.
must have been a special summer school job he was going to on a Saturday morning
Posted on 7/9/17 at 7:18 pm to CAD703X
Happy for you. Be safe.
Posted on 7/9/17 at 8:51 pm to BigOrangeBri
At some point the authorities really need to start enforcing laws against the bikers and not just the vehicle operators. I didn't watch the video and only saw a couple of still shots at impact and post impact, but looks like this rider was breaking federal law and ignoring safety recommendations. They should press charges against him. Had on dark clothing and looked to be at least 2/3 of the way to the center line entering a curve. Driver is a jerk for leaving the scene, But would love to see him get a lawyer and sue the biker.
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Natchez Trace Parkway is a designated bicycle route, and bicycle traffic increases dramatically on the weekends and holidays,” reminded Acting Chief Ranger Calvin Farmer." “In Mississippi and Tennessee, bicyclists are allowed to use the full lane of traffic to ride in when necessary. Federal regulations require bicyclists to ride single file, and riders are encouraged to move to the right to allow for vehicles to pass. It is also highly recommended riders wear high-visibility clothing and flashing front and rear lights. Vehicle drivers must provide a safe distance when overtaking and passing a bicyclist," Farmer added.
Posted on 7/9/17 at 9:40 pm to DingLeeBerry
What federal law did the cyclist break?
Posted on 7/9/17 at 9:42 pm to TimeOutdoors
It said federal regulation requires them to ride single file. Based on what I read he wasn't doing so. Is that incorrect?
Posted on 7/9/17 at 9:42 pm to DingLeeBerry
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looks like this rider was breaking federal law
wut
Posted on 7/9/17 at 9:45 pm to DingLeeBerry
No such federal law. The Trace also has new signs put up in the last 4 months that say cyclist may use full lane.
On a side note, I do think cyclist should stay to the right except when in heavy traffic when doing so isn't safe. They are States that have this law (including the part about when it's safe to do so), which from what I understand Tennessee now currently has to some extent.
On a side note, I do think cyclist should stay to the right except when in heavy traffic when doing so isn't safe. They are States that have this law (including the part about when it's safe to do so), which from what I understand Tennessee now currently has to some extent.
This post was edited on 7/9/17 at 9:51 pm
Posted on 7/9/17 at 9:48 pm to CAD703X
I guess the park ranger must be mistaken.
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Federal regulations require bicyclists to ride single file, and riders are encouraged to move to the right to allow for vehicles to pass.
Posted on 7/9/17 at 9:51 pm to DingLeeBerry
He was if he said federal regulations.
Posted on 7/9/17 at 9:53 pm to DingLeeBerry
He was if he said federal regulations. The only federal regulation is if the group has a special use permit, which does require single file, lights, etc.
Having said that, most ethical cyclist consider riding two abreast poor form.
Having said that, most ethical cyclist consider riding two abreast poor form.
Posted on 7/9/17 at 9:58 pm to TimeOutdoors
36CFR 4.30
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NPS.gov Park Home Learn About the Park Management Laws & Policies Code of Federal Regulations - Bicycles Code of Federal Regulations, Title 36, Chapter 4.3 - Bicycles 36CFR 4.30 – Bicycles § 4.30 Bicycles (a) Parkroads. (
1)The use of a bicycle is permitted on park roads and in parking areas that otherwise open for motor vehicle use by the general public.
(g) Other requirements.
(2) Unless specifically addressed by regulations in this chapter, the use of a bicycle within a park area governed by state law. State law concerning bicycle use that is now or may later be in effect is adopted and made a part of this section.
(h) Prohibited acts. The following are prohibited: (
1) Bicycle riding off of park roads and parking areas, except on administrative roads and trails that have been authorized for bicycle use. (
3) Operating a bicycle during periods of low visibility, or while traveling through a tunnel, or between sunset and sunrise, without exhibiting on the operator or bicycle a white light or reflector that is visible from a distance of at least 500 feet to the front and with a red light or reflector that is visible from at least 200 feet to the rear
. (4) Operating a bicycle abreast of another bicycle except where authorized by the superintendent.
(5) Operating a bicycle while consuming an alcoholic beverage or carrying in hand an open container of an alcoholic beverage. (
6) Any violation of State law adopted by this section
Posted on 7/9/17 at 10:11 pm to DingLeeBerry
Posted on 7/9/17 at 10:18 pm to DingLeeBerry
Sweet, always been poor form and most cyclist don't do it. I haven't checked the Superintent's compendium, but I doubt she would allow it either.
I only saw a snippet of the vid, so unless he was just passing the other cyclist it appears they were two abreast.
I only saw a snippet of the vid, so unless he was just passing the other cyclist it appears they were two abreast.
Posted on 7/9/17 at 10:30 pm to tigerinthebueche
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tigerinthebueche
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You really are a fricking idiot.
Ladies and gentlemen, THIS is the textbook example of - when a person has lost an argument based upon logic and facts - resorting to name calling to try in vain to salvage any shred of respect they still have from their peers.
Posted on 7/10/17 at 10:15 am to TimeOutdoors
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I only saw a snippet of the vid, so unless he was just passing the other cyclist it appears they were two abreast.
WKRN
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“He’s never been in clips before. He’d never been in, he hadn’t biked since he was a kid. So I thought what a wonderful place to teach him how to bike. The Natchez Trace, where we were biking, you’re allowed to ride in your lane and it’s posted as such. So I thought that would be a good place for Tyler to start out.”
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“We rode single file almost all day. At the moment of that attack we were climbing a hill, we were almost done and he was coming up beside me to kind of take the lead.”
Goodman says the driver intentionally hit Noe and kept driving.
“He just decided rather through rage, or through something against us bikers, he just decided he wanted to take one of us out. I’ve had a lot of close calls but not somebody that was aiming at me.”
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Thousands of bikers frequent the parkway, where a number of signs are posted that say bikers may use the full lane.
“It’s a park, so it’s not a place you go to from Point A to Point B. The car is supposed to treat us like a car and go around us,” said Goodman.
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While Noe’s first reaction was that he is done with biking, Goodman wants to get him back out on a bike and even persuade him to still try for that Iron Man.
Goodman also told us someone from a bike company even reached out to offer Noe a bike. He was borrowing the one he was riding and it’s now destroyed.
This post was edited on 7/10/17 at 10:18 am
Posted on 7/10/17 at 10:49 am to CAD703X
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It’s a park, so it’s not a place you go to from Point A to Point B.
The Trace around Jackson and Tupelo is most definitely used to get from Point A to B.
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