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re: B-17 collides/crashes with another plane at Dallas air show.

Posted on 11/12/22 at 3:10 pm to
Posted by redstick13
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Posted on 11/12/22 at 3:10 pm to
Looks like the fighter plane didn’t see the B17 coming at him from below while he was banking left.
Posted by redstick13
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Posted on 11/12/22 at 3:11 pm to
Damn that angle shows how bad the impact with ground was for both planes. Don’t see how anyone survived that.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
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Posted on 11/12/22 at 3:12 pm to
Looks like something right out of the Dogfights episode of SonderKommando Elbe.
Posted by Bubb
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 11/12/22 at 3:14 pm to
Do they not plan or choreograph these things? Should they have more than 1 flying at a time if they are just willy nillying with no plan? I'm not familiar with how air shows work.
Posted by Mud_Bone
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Posted on 11/12/22 at 3:16 pm to
Posted by flyAU
Scottsdale
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Posted on 11/12/22 at 3:18 pm to
Adding to OP
Posted by 92Tiger
Member since Dec 2015
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Posted on 11/12/22 at 3:20 pm to
Loss of life is obviously tragic and the most important thing, but the loss of one of the last still flying B17s is sad too.

The smaller plane (P-51??) was in a hard banked turn and the underside of his plane was possibly obscuring the view. Not sure who controls airspace at an airshow - ATC or the show operators - but someone should have been spotting and radioed to help keep those planes apart, both altitude and across the ground.
This post was edited on 11/12/22 at 3:30 pm
Posted by tiggah1981
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Posted on 11/12/22 at 3:23 pm to
of course i wish it hadn’t happened but thankful it was over for them quick

so sad

that one vid shared showed a good amount of planes (unless they were birds) in the same airspace

that’s just begging for an acciident to happen
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
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Posted on 11/12/22 at 3:23 pm to
Terrible ATC and who ever that piloted the smaller plane
This post was edited on 11/12/22 at 3:25 pm
Posted by HeyCap
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 11/12/22 at 3:27 pm to
Unfortunately I am hearing 7 dead; 6 on the bomber and the lone pilot of the P63.
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 11/12/22 at 3:29 pm to
It looks chaotic to have that many planes up unorganized in such a small area
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 11/12/22 at 3:29 pm to
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6 on the bomber


That's about as bad a number as we could have possibly heard
This post was edited on 11/12/22 at 3:30 pm
Posted by HeyCap
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Posted on 11/12/22 at 3:39 pm to
Posted by Yellerhammer5
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 11/12/22 at 3:43 pm to
Whenever I watch YouTube videos about these old craft that are still flying, I’m always a bit alarmed at the age of the pilots.
Posted by Auburn80
Backwater, TN
Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 11/12/22 at 3:43 pm to
Unless you’re the Blue Angels or the Thunderbirds there should not be 2 planes in the air at the same time.
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 11/12/22 at 3:46 pm to
Pic posted on twitter

Posted by Baldy
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 11/12/22 at 3:47 pm to
Took a picture of the Cobra with a P38 with my Mustang Cobra and Ford Lightning between the airplanes at a Shreveport Downtown fly in around 2000.

Boss man actually flew on a B17 to Natchitoches that day. Different B17 though. Think it was Aluminum Overcast.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Posted on 11/12/22 at 3:47 pm to
My first thought off of that view is damn there’s a lot of planes in the air in a small amount of air. Space.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 11/12/22 at 3:48 pm to
Damn…that sucks.

There aren’t that many vintage B-17s left now.
Posted by SG_Geaux
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Posted on 11/12/22 at 3:50 pm to
quote:

There aren’t that many vintage B-17s left now.





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