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re: Arrest Made in Domino's Delivery Man Fatal Shooting in Lower Ninth Ward

Posted on 4/1/15 at 1:15 pm to
Posted by Dennis ODell
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2010
375 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 1:15 pm to
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Posted by tgrbaitn08 How about "monster"? Can we call the TPOS a monster?


Are you trying to trigger people?

Check your privilege!
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92876 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 1:17 pm to
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If you want to stop being labeled as prejudice, then maybe some people on this board should evolve and having thoughts/opinions that were prevalent in the antebellum south.



What if you are Christian and don't believe in evolution, how will you evolve then? Some people, like the people in the pictures below are against the idea of evolution.



Posted by sjmabry
Texas
Member since Aug 2013
18499 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 1:17 pm to
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How about "monster"? Can we call the TPOS a monster?
Nope, that's reserved for the white men who prey on young kids
Posted by The Sad Banana
The gate is narrow.
Member since Jul 2008
89498 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 1:24 pm to
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That's not my point. Which is: it's hardly coincidental that 90+ percent of these crimes are committed by people with backgrounds such as this guy probably has--growing up from day one in a terrible environment that is hardly conducive to producing solid, productive, law abiding citizens. And that is not his fault either.

If the guy had grown up say, in my circumstances, I might have an easier time throwing the switch on him. But if he indeed grew up in the environment I suspect he did, that makes it … a bit more difficult to make a sweeping pronouncement on his guilt. But that's just me.
That is very eloquently written and well thought out and I can even manage to see your point of view.

But I guess the Domino's guy has to pay the price for Lower Ninth Ward guy's shitty upbringing. And that, my friend, is just as unfair.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101390 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 1:41 pm to
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That's not my point. Which is: it's hardly coincidental that 90+ percent of these crimes are committed by people with backgrounds such as this guy probably has--growing up from day one in a terrible environment that is hardly conducive to producing solid, productive, law abiding citizens. And that is not his fault either.


I agree that the environment that he was BORN INTO is certainly not his fault.

However, this guy is 24 years old. At some point one has be considered to have reached an age of moral culpability (presumably before 24) such that you stop not just excusing but even glorifying hailing from such an environment. From everything I can see, it appears this guy was doing nothing but relishing in it for the entirety of his 24 years on this earth.
Posted by Tigerstudent08
Lakeview
Member since Apr 2007
5776 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 2:00 pm to
I ventured over to this POS Facebook account and started clicking on a couple of his friends.....good god! It is so sad that these people (his friends) are allowed to reproduce/vote/etc. The kids they have will turn out just like the parents. So sad. I mean they can't even type a legible sentence.
Posted by TigerPanzer
Orlando
Member since Sep 2006
9476 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 2:02 pm to
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But I guess the Domino's guy has to pay the price for Lower Ninth Ward guy's shitty upbringing. And that, my friend, is just as unfair.

Absolutely true.

I should say that I'm influenced by my recent rereading of Truman Capote's In Cold Blood. There is a point in that book where any normal reader would take great delight in strangling the two guys who committed the Clutter murders, especially Perry Smith, the guy who took claimed to have murdered the four victims.

Then Capote relates the circumstances of Smith's upbringing, and–at least in my case–my lust for vengeance gave way to more complicated emotions, based on the horrible circumstances of Smith's childhood and youth, circumstances that could certainly turn an impressionable kid into a monster later in life.

So there we are: an inexcusable crime committed by a person who, through no fault of his own, spent his formative years in an inexcusably depraved environment. Seems to me this creates a most uncomfortable conundrum, no matter where you fall on the issue of the individual's guilt or innocence. It sure did for me.
This post was edited on 4/1/15 at 2:04 pm
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 3:51 pm to
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Then Capote relates the circumstances of Smith's upbringing, and–at least in my case–my lust for vengeance gave way to more complicated emotions, based on the horrible circumstances of Smith's childhood and youth, circumstances that could certainly turn an impressionable kid into a monster later in life.
that is fricking insane

no matter how fricked up your upbringing may have been or terrible your current environment is, if you can distinguish between right and wrong, then everything else is just noise. In the case of the "fricked up circumstances" of people living in the 9th ward, they don't lack

electricity
food
water
clothing

they have cable, and disposable "income" (I'm assuming that tattoos cost money)

there are people lacking a lot more, and yet they are able to distinguish between right and wrong. In fact, this concept is as old as civilization. No doubt that poverty might desensitize you to some things, or impact how you personally value human life, but in the end...almost every single person on this planet understands that it is wrong, and that it is THE worst crime one can commit. People in the U.S. who use this poverty crutch to relieve themselves of responsibility for their actions are taking you for a ride. They lack nothing, all of their needs are met and then some. He killed this dude because he thought he had a lot of money as someone handling cash all day and he felt entitled to it. Now whether or not he planned on murdering him or things went bad, doesn't matter. He made a decision, he wasn't put in some uncompromising position, and he is 100% responsible. So not only is everything you just wrote complete bullshite, but I would bet any amount of money that you would abandon your enlightened viewpoint the very second that you found yourself in the victim's shoes, or in the circumstances of the family.


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