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re: Army soldiers to get powerful new Swedish-made tank-stopper
Posted on 3/11/14 at 1:44 pm to BigEdLSU
Posted on 3/11/14 at 1:44 pm to BigEdLSU
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11b but was in HHQ company. Lots of cool toys.
Closest thing to a tank we fooled with were strykers, and that was just during training not combat.
Gotcha. I was 19K in Armored Cav back in the late 80's and early 90's. We had Abrams (M1 and then M1A1) and M3 Bradleys. The Stryker was way after my time.
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 1:46 pm to BigEdLSU
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Shoulder fired with weird optics for us.
You mean a Dragon (M47).
Ugh.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 1:46 pm to BigEdLSU
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Shoulder fired with weird optics for us.
The only thing I ever put on my shoulder was one of these...
... while loading ammo on the tank.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 1:49 pm to Darth_Vader
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The only thing I ever put on my shoulder was one of these...
He means a Dragon - all the TOW launchers were tripod or vehicle mount - way too big for the shoulder.
Dragon was a "good enough" ATGM - but really poor ergonomics, performance, record - glad to see them go.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 1:52 pm to Ace Midnight
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He means a Dragon - all the TOW launchers were tripod or vehicle mount - way too big for the shoulder.
Yeah, I remember seeing some of the tripod mounted TOW's in Germany. Looked like this....
I never could understand how they thought that was an effective system to deploy on the modern mobile battlefield. And by "modern", I'm talking about what we thought we'd be fighting at any moment in Germany back in the 80's.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 1:56 pm to Ace Midnight
You know what, I'm wrong. Wtf is going on with my memory? 
We had a tow missile launcher mounted in the back of a Humvee. And one of those marq-22's "I think".
Automatic grenade launcher. I can't remember nomenclatures of exact equipment, I just wanted to fire them
We had a tow missile launcher mounted in the back of a Humvee. And one of those marq-22's "I think".
Automatic grenade launcher. I can't remember nomenclatures of exact equipment, I just wanted to fire them
This post was edited on 3/11/14 at 2:02 pm
Posted on 3/11/14 at 2:01 pm to BigEdLSU
My unit was deployed from 11-12 and we were as regular army as it gets and we had Gustafs fwiw. Found a 60mm and Tows/javs to be more effective...
Posted on 3/11/14 at 2:02 pm to BigEdLSU
Here's the Dragon....
And this is the Javelin
And this is the Javelin
Posted on 3/11/14 at 2:04 pm to Darth_Vader
We had one of those in the bottom picture. Hard as frick to see the sights with all the shite attached to your helmet
Posted on 3/11/14 at 2:06 pm to BigEdLSU
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And one of those marq-22's "I think".
Automatic grenade launcher.
Mark-19 - sometimes called a "grenade machinegun".
Pretty sweet.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 2:08 pm to Ace Midnight
that's a bad, bad piece of equipment. Don't know if I would have wanted it in a tank fight, but it was absolutely devastating. Posted on 3/11/14 at 2:11 pm to BigEdLSU
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that's a bad, bad piece of equipment. Don't know if I would have wanted it in a tank fight, but it was absolutely devastating.
You're probably annoy the crew inside the tank... at least until the gunner lazed your vehicle and he heard the loader yell "up" followed by the TC giving the order to fire. After that they'd be like this....
Posted on 3/11/14 at 2:11 pm to Darth_Vader
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And this is the Javelin
buddy of mine has some videos of him firing the javelin in Afghanistan, pretty damn cool. Army made him take it off his facebook, since they were not training fires. Each fire, he's like, "want 40k for a car?, tough shite I got to blow up houses"
This post was edited on 3/11/14 at 2:13 pm
Posted on 3/11/14 at 2:13 pm to Darth_Vader
Thankfully guys like you blew all of their tanks up for us. Unfortunately for us all, they started making ied's with the leftover rounds
Posted on 3/11/14 at 2:18 pm to BigEdLSU
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Thankfully guys like you blew all of their tanks up for us. Unfortunately for us all, they started making ied's with the leftover rounds
Yeah, Hodgie is a sneaky frick who does not like to fight fair.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 2:19 pm to Darth_Vader
My brother shot a dragon in desert storm.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 2:20 pm to HeadyMurphey
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My brother shot a dragon in desert storm.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 2:21 pm to Darth_Vader
I was triple MOS'ed as an 11B,11M and 11C2 (dragon gunner) so I get to play with many of the toys you mentioned. Went through many 25mm rounds (AP and HE) and tow rounds in Desert Storm. The tow was very reliable IMO. I let lose probable 15-17 with no aborts and a ~70% hit rate. Being optically guided you had to really be aware of the immediate rocket smoke and let the missle fly for a bit before trying to track the target. I sent a couple early on into the ground a short distance in front of us until I got the hang of it. Simulators don't prepare you well for that. Got to shoot only one live dragon round at the end of training.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 2:35 pm to Scream4LSU
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I sent a couple early on into the ground a short distance in front of us until I got the hang of it.
That was an even bigger problem with the ground launched TOW. The height and stability of the vehicle mount gave a little more room for error.
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The tow was very reliable IMO. I let lose probable 15-17 with no aborts and a ~70% hit rate.
And that's pretty standard - were all of those from a Bradley?
Posted on 3/11/14 at 2:58 pm to Ace Midnight
Yeah all from a brand new M2 with reactive armor straight out of moth balls. Took a sager missile to one of the panels and didn't even know it until way later when we got out and started looking around. I thought my driver had pivoted into the the side of a wadi because it was a loud thump but figured out later it was the missle strike. Didn't even feel it really but the panel was gone and a big black spot.
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