re: Are transgender thoughts a mental disorder of some sort?

What part of my post was confusing? It wasn't a riddle.

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You've probably never seen it first hand. My 8 year old son's best friend is a girl who very much wants to be a boy. She dresses like a boy, wears her hair like a boy, plays sports with the boys. They currently both have crush on the same girl in their class. She's been that way since at least kindergarten. She has a typically feminine older sister.

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You shouldnt let your son associate with her

Given that they said he/she had a panic attack after the surgery one would hope he/she is getting proper mental treatment.

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His friend has confided the same thing to her mother. She's not going to snap out of it when she hits puberty.

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I mean...she might

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If you argue that gender and biology are completely connected:

Then gender roles must conform to biology (as they are linked) and women and men's gender should be separate, completely. Women (due to biology) should not be able to move into male gender roles (military service, manufacturing, religious leadership, etc).

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Gender is biology. I don't believe in "gender roles." To me, that's a made-up concept. Tradition may dictate something, but if a person is capable, I don't see any reason that they shouldn't be able to do what they desire to.

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The modern bullshite argument that gender and sex are different is exactly that, bullshite.

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What? No it's not. This is a cultural difference by definition.

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Probably the least objective group you'll encounter

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Which is fine by me. I prefer to hear any information available.

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By that logic, we should drive over to Angola and release all of the prisoners. They're the "experts" after all, and they claim they're all innocent.

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That logic is not even remotely close to the point I was trying to make. My fault there; I should have been more clear. Which I was above, I hope.

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Anything that is "natural" and normal doesn't need technology to accommodate it.

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I don't disagree. If studies show this is in fact a biological occurrence, it doesn't necessarily mean we as a society have to cater to them. Sometimes the cookies crumble differently for people, and that sucks. But that's life.

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What? No it's not. This is a cultural difference by definition.

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Whose definition? Sorry. Gender = sex. I don't care about modern philosophical bullshite meant to legitimize abnormality.

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Whose definition?

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The medical community, for one. Monash, Association of American Medical College, Mayo Clinic, Health Resources and Services Administration Office of Women's Health, the National Institutes of Health, Office of Research on Women's Health, and the Canadian Institute of Health and Gender, etc

the medical community HAS to keep this separation in order to continue the development of individualized medicine and treatments for unique needs of women and men. That is essentially the sole reason for this differentiation. It's hard to explain on here, but do some googling and you should find a few abstracts to read.

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science

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You keep using that word but I don't think you know what it means....all the stuff you quoted as science was complete and utter bullshite that has already been completely dismantled by an aggie on here....

Feel good hypothetical BS driven by a liberal political agenda does not equate to science.

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I don't doubt there are some people that can remember certain things that way back but typically I call bull shite on people that say "I knew I was a girl when I was 4 years old." or "I knew I was gay at x years old"

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I have kids that age and they are not thinking in those terms at all.
If kids "know" they are gay or trans at that age it's because somebody is telling them they are or somebody later says "I knew when you were a kid."

As for my kids, the boys will be raised to be boys and the girls raised to be girls.

This isn't rocket science. To a great extent, we have to figure out what seems true in the world and live according to that. That's how we collectively create reality.
I'm sure we could create all kinds of genders and identities in just a couple of generations of brainwashing children according to whatever quirks they display at a young age, but why would we do that? Who wants that reality?

Now I'm going to piss off a bunch of people who previously agreed with this post. I think that the cause of all of this insanity is the breakdown of the family, which can be traced to birth control and easy divorce. Also, and here's the offensive part to many of you, it's all being made worse by delayed child-bearing, which is a revolutionary/evolutionary change occurring at a very high speed that drastically effects the way people think and see the world in their twenties and thirties.