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Are HR departments beneficial?
Posted on 3/2/16 at 9:17 pm
Posted on 3/2/16 at 9:17 pm
They've always been a pain in my arse. I have been dealing with them for the past two months trying to get a new job, and God damn they don't call anyone back. I called one lady probably 10 times over three weeks and left maybe 7 messages. No return phone call. I finally caught her on the 11th call for her to tell me that a company had workers in a position that I knew they didn't. Have been trying to get in touch with, and leaving messages for, another one lately also. The owner of the company even told her I'd be calling, but she won't call back. That's happened multiple times, but never for a company without an HR department.
If I've ever had a work problem or a payroll problem, I go directly to whoever is in charge of it. That's never been an issue with me. Always gets solved.
Payroll is done outside of a lot of companies. Lawyers should be taking care of the legal shite. Management should be taking care of problems inside the company and personal problems. Computers can do the original sorting through resumes. People that know about the position should be doing the rest. They just seem like a hindrance. Are they the SJWs of the business world?
If I've ever had a work problem or a payroll problem, I go directly to whoever is in charge of it. That's never been an issue with me. Always gets solved.
Payroll is done outside of a lot of companies. Lawyers should be taking care of the legal shite. Management should be taking care of problems inside the company and personal problems. Computers can do the original sorting through resumes. People that know about the position should be doing the rest. They just seem like a hindrance. Are they the SJWs of the business world?
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Posted on 3/2/16 at 9:22 pm to Hammertime
they are a pain in the arse to deal with only because of their function...and that function is to keep the company from getting sued...
Posted on 3/2/16 at 9:22 pm to Hammertime
Owner of the company is telling you one thing, and her another.
Posted on 3/2/16 at 9:23 pm to Hammertime
They are worthless IMO
Posted on 3/2/16 at 9:28 pm to Hammertime
Yes they're beneficial, you're stupid if you think otherwise. They're a pain in the arse sometimes, yes, but they serve a very important function.
Posted on 3/2/16 at 9:29 pm to Spankum
HR people are required to pass a bar exam? If you're gonna get sued, you're gonna get sued. I'd rather get my advice on a sketchy situation from a person that is actually a lawyer.
I have worked at large companies with HR departments, and they are just another layer of bullshite to go through when a problem needs to be solved
I have worked at large companies with HR departments, and they are just another layer of bullshite to go through when a problem needs to be solved
quote:What is that? I just laid out plenty of things that could be done better with people who already work for a company, and you wouldn't be required to pay salary and benefits to another person
they serve a very important function
This post was edited on 3/2/16 at 9:32 pm
Posted on 3/2/16 at 9:30 pm to southernelite
Are you in HR? 
Posted on 3/2/16 at 9:30 pm to Spankum
Not just that, sometimes I have questions about my benefits or soemthing, my boss isn't going to know the answer or have the time to deal with my bullshite.
Posted on 3/2/16 at 9:30 pm to GoldenD
No.
Posted on 3/2/16 at 9:30 pm to Hammertime
try and run a big business without one and report back
This post was edited on 3/2/16 at 9:31 pm
Posted on 3/2/16 at 9:31 pm to southernelite
Always remember that no matter what bullshite you're fed, HR is most definitely not there primarily as a resource for the employees. HR's primary function is to protect the interests of the company and to shield the executives. Never go to HR with anything that you think could come back to haunt you.
This post was edited on 3/2/16 at 9:32 pm
Posted on 3/2/16 at 9:32 pm to southernelite
quote:
Yes they're beneficial, you're stupid if you think otherwise. They're a pain in the arse sometimes, yes, but they serve a very important function
They have helped me get rid of employees who were cancers. They hold you to task to do things the right way which is often a pain in the arse. Thankful to have had excellent ones during my career.
Posted on 3/2/16 at 9:36 pm to Hammertime
Sounds like you're trying to get on with a very large company. That's harder to do. They're too bureaucratic. Look for a company with 50-250 employees. That way they aren't feeding your resume into a database and doing a keyword search. A medium sized company just looks for good people and finds a place for them.
Think of it like a football team. In the pros, you look for a 3-4 outside linebacker or a tackle who fits into a zone blocking scheme. In college, you look for a five star recruit and get him on the field, even if it wasn't where you originally planned to use him.
Think of it like a football team. In the pros, you look for a 3-4 outside linebacker or a tackle who fits into a zone blocking scheme. In college, you look for a five star recruit and get him on the field, even if it wasn't where you originally planned to use him.
Posted on 3/2/16 at 9:36 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
quote:I know how to deal with the computer resume stuff. This is for companies that either aren't advertising or I know someone who recommended me. Personal calls
Bestbank Tiger
This post was edited on 3/2/16 at 11:32 pm
Posted on 3/2/16 at 9:37 pm to Hammertime
quote:
Management should be taking care of problems inside the company and personal problems
yea...this would work. No, I didnt touch your arse drunk after work the other night, so you're fired...cause I am management.
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Lawyers should be taking care of the legal shite.
Yea, lets pay someone $500/hr to write up compensation paperwork and deliver it and submit it and track it...Then, let them do exit interviews too. Great use of capital...
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Are they the SJWs of the business world?
Sounds like you might be...
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I called one lady probably 10 times over three weeks and left maybe 7 messages. No return phone call. I finally caught her on the 11th call
Posted on 3/2/16 at 9:37 pm to Hammertime
HR is a way for companies to avoid lawsuits and pawn paperwork onto other people that cost less
Posted on 3/2/16 at 9:39 pm to Hammertime
If you knew the owner you wouldn't be dealing with HR. Your knuckles are weak.
Posted on 3/2/16 at 9:41 pm to Hammertime
They benefit lawyers
Posted on 3/2/16 at 9:41 pm to IT_Dawg
quote:No, I just wanted the exact job at that specific company that the guy who runs it told me was open. That's why I was so persistent.
Sounds like you might be...
Posted on 3/2/16 at 9:42 pm to Tiger Ryno
He's the one who told me to call her. It is a very big company, so that is probably SOP
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