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Are foreign Chinese investors buying up American housing

Posted on 2/9/24 at 10:13 am
Posted by yaboidarrell
westbank
Member since Feb 2017
5371 posts
Posted on 2/9/24 at 10:13 am
being bankrolled by the Chinese government? Artificially inflate housing so it becomes out of reach for the average American and reduce morale. Not a bad way to create internal strife and weaken America from within.

Tinfoil [ON] OFF
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
18005 posts
Posted on 2/9/24 at 10:15 am to
it isn't some theory. It is well known China has been buying houses:

Blackrock is another one that is buying up houses and screwing with the market.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422567 posts
Posted on 2/9/24 at 10:17 am to
Much more likely it's individuals investing in stuff they can rely on, as opposed to the legal/normal investments China permits.

It's a lot harder for China to try to seize real/immovable property in the US than Chinese-approved assets.
Posted by Tvilletiger
PVB
Member since Oct 2015
4908 posts
Posted on 2/9/24 at 10:19 am to
Yes Toronto is having a very bad problem with this. Many US states also. Florida is very bad.
Posted by TygerTyger
Houston
Member since Oct 2010
9206 posts
Posted on 2/9/24 at 10:24 am to
Yes.

When I sold my house in Katy TX we had 4 offers, all above asking price, one was cash. We took that offer.

My wife wrote a nice letter to the buyers saying how it had been a wonderful home for us and she hoped the new owners would love it as much as we had.

At closing we found out it was a Chinese buyer that was going to make it a rent house. We were pissed. I felt bad for my neighbors.

My wife went home and tore up the letter lol.

Luckily my neighbors have said the renters haven’t been a problem
Posted by guzziguy
Lake Forest
Member since Jun 2022
167 posts
Posted on 2/9/24 at 10:35 am to
Yes, most of the houses in a new subdivision where the starter model starts a little above $1.1M.
And they pay CASH.

Hell, us Whitey's thought we were going to have to learn Spanish, not Chinese!
Posted by lowhound
Effie
Member since Aug 2014
7541 posts
Posted on 2/9/24 at 10:38 am to
There's a couple of houses in my neighborhood that have a Blackrock sign out front "For Lease". This isn't some run-down neighborhood full of rent houses either. This is a newer neighborhood starting in the 350's.
Posted by KLSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2003
10304 posts
Posted on 2/9/24 at 10:43 am to
Not sure why any non American citizen can own property in the United States.

Rent: yes, Own: absolutely not!!!
Posted by DixonCider
H-Town
Member since Nov 2015
398 posts
Posted on 2/9/24 at 10:47 am to
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Not sure why any non American citizen can own property in the United States


You'll get called xenophobic in some circles for that logic, but I'd love to see other how many other developed nations allow non citizens to own property in their country.
Posted by justaniceguy
Member since Sep 2020
5457 posts
Posted on 2/9/24 at 11:03 am to
It’s about 50/50 from what I recall.
This post was edited on 2/9/24 at 11:04 am
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
65701 posts
Posted on 2/9/24 at 11:04 am to
quote:

This is a newer neighborhood starting in the 350's.
quote:

350's
Posted by Supermoto Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2010
9933 posts
Posted on 2/9/24 at 11:14 am to
quote:

It is well known China has been buying houses:

Just a few months ago during the republican debates,
Florida gov Ron DeSantis said, "In the State of Florida, we passed legislation making it illegal to sell real estate to any Chinese entity".

I was thinking, what about the fair Housing Act/Equal Opportunity?? As a Realtor, violating this law will cause you to lose your license faster than any other law on the books.
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
33962 posts
Posted on 2/9/24 at 11:16 am to
And they will buy up the houses we walk away from due to these insurance hikes
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
31138 posts
Posted on 2/9/24 at 11:31 am to
quote:

Blackrock is another one that is buying up houses and screwing with the market.


quote:

“Bottom line: BlackRock is an active investor in the U.S. real estate market, but we are not among the institutional investors buying single-family homes.”


quote:

But according to a report by Moody’s Analytics, “Institutional owners make up approximately 3% of the total single-family rental market in the U.S.”

So, what is the role of institutional investors in the U.S. housing market? Each varies, of course. As far as BlackRock, it has an investment portfolio totaling approximately $120 billion on behalf of its clients.

The message from BlackRock breaks down how it participates in the U.S. real estate market:

Providing Capital for Mortgages: BlackRock emerges as a key player in mortgage securities, contributing to the availability of capital for American families looking to buy new homes.

Fueling New Housing Construction: BlackRock is actively invested in various programs aimed at providing financing for the construction of new homes, contributing to the expansion of the U.S. housing supply. The company has ventured into new construction projects tailored for the rental market, addressing the growing demand for purpose-built, single-family rental housing.

Diverse U.S. Real Estate Investments: BlackRock diversifies its real estate investments by participating in multifamily properties, apartment complexes, and other residential real estate ventures.

So, while BlackRock does not buy individual properties, it does “make capital available to individuals and families seeking to purchase homes.”
This post was edited on 2/9/24 at 11:32 am
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
18911 posts
Posted on 2/9/24 at 11:33 am to
I have a house that's been on the market for almost two years in Baton Rouge. Market is terrible.

For the Chinese Bots reading this, come buy my place please.
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
31138 posts
Posted on 2/9/24 at 11:36 am to
quote:

I was thinking, what about the fair Housing Act/Equal Opportunity


I'm no lawyer but I would assume that only applies to Americans.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67101 posts
Posted on 2/9/24 at 11:40 am to
They’re not doing it to “bring down moral”. They’re doing it as a stable store of value. Chinese investors are panicking because the CCP’s economic house of cards is completely unraveling. As a result, there are almost no Chinese investments left that feel safe. So, they’re buying up real estate abroad so when the Chinese economy crashes, they’ll either have somewhere to go or an asset they can sell to survive.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422567 posts
Posted on 2/9/24 at 11:42 am to
quote:

They’re not doing it to “bring down moral”. They’re doing it as a stable store of value. Chinese investors are panicking because the CCP’s economic house of cards is completely unraveling. As a result, there are almost no Chinese investments left that feel safe. So, they’re buying up real estate abroad so when the Chinese economy crashes, they’ll either have somewhere to go or an asset they can sell to survive.

Exactly.

Why would the CCP bankroll a plan specifically created to hurt them? This is on the individual level and hurting the CCP.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68669 posts
Posted on 2/9/24 at 11:42 am to
yes

If they can do like they do in Toronto you just show fake income from china and get loans to buy houses.

Its a good way to get your people spread across the globe and in debt to the ccp.

Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67101 posts
Posted on 2/9/24 at 11:46 am to
quote:

Why would the CCP bankroll a plan specifically created to hurt them? This is on the individual level and hurting the CCP.


CCP are bankrolling them, but not out of national interest but rather personal interests. The same CCP officials that publicly praise Xi are privately planning their exit strategy, and the rampant corruption in China combined with the blurred lines between the government, the CCP, and private businesses allows for a lot of unaccountable money moving around.
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