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Are air purifiers worth a shite?
Posted on 6/21/21 at 1:05 pm
Posted on 6/21/21 at 1:05 pm
One of my kids and I both have pretty bad allergies and we live in an older house so I think it makes dust a bit worse. Also have a big arse dog who is the man so I’m not kicking him out the house.
Do air purifiers help with allergies? Any recs on makes and models?
Do air purifiers help with allergies? Any recs on makes and models?
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Posted on 6/21/21 at 1:13 pm to CatfishJohn
Truth: they do filter stuff out of the air.
More truth: they don't stand a chance at circulating anywhere near half the air in your house through them over any meaningful time period, which means tons of air never gets through them. Because of diffusion, the overall level of crap will be lower, but do not believe any high percentage they quote you for removing impurities, that is based on very controlled tests. They also don't do jack about what has already settled on surfaces, that stuff just waits to get blown around again. Your carpet is trapping 100x as much crap as that filter can pick up.
More truth: they don't stand a chance at circulating anywhere near half the air in your house through them over any meaningful time period, which means tons of air never gets through them. Because of diffusion, the overall level of crap will be lower, but do not believe any high percentage they quote you for removing impurities, that is based on very controlled tests. They also don't do jack about what has already settled on surfaces, that stuff just waits to get blown around again. Your carpet is trapping 100x as much crap as that filter can pick up.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 1:17 pm to CatfishJohn
I paid an extra $3k for my HVAC that has the dehumidifier and purifier, and that's been the best $3k I ever spent in my life. I think standalones are basically just gimmicks for the most part, it's got to start at the source which is the central unit and ducts imo.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 1:17 pm to calcotron
Figured that was the answer! I’ll just pop a Zyrtec and quit being a bitch
Posted on 6/21/21 at 1:21 pm to CatfishJohn
the only thing I've noticed about mine is that I sleep better due to the sound
ETA: when you look at what's on the filter after a month and think about how much shite the vacuum and dust rags have picked up off of surfaces you realize it's a joke
ETA: when you look at what's on the filter after a month and think about how much shite the vacuum and dust rags have picked up off of surfaces you realize it's a joke
This post was edited on 6/21/21 at 1:23 pm
Posted on 6/21/21 at 1:21 pm to CatfishJohn
As tomato points out though, your HVAC is a boss at moving air. If you implement something via that, it will be much more effective than putting those fan box filters in a couple rooms (there is a reason the generally sell those via multi level marketing like the other products that are a joke).
Posted on 6/21/21 at 1:22 pm to CatfishJohn
I can tell the difference when I run my air purifier overnight and when I don't.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 2:02 pm to Tomatocantender
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I paid an extra $3k for my HVAC that has the dehumidifier and purifier, and that's been the best $3k I ever spent in my life. I think standalones are basically just gimmicks for the most part, it's got to start at the source which is the central unit and ducts imo.
Noted. We've got 5+ years left on our units I think, but I'll remember this when it comes time to replace.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 2:08 pm to CatfishJohn
I have one in my bedroom and my office and I do notice a difference in my allergies. In my bedroom I don't wake up with cotton mouth or sniffles from dust and the air in my office and bedroom is both clean and fresh. Make sure to keep your door closed so as to maximize the air that's being cleaned. I have a Honeywell in each room. Got two with permanent filters so all you have to do is vacuum the filter ever so often.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 2:13 pm to CatfishJohn
If you're trying to filter your house buying a stand alone won't be worth a shite. Much like trying to cool your house with a single window unit.
If you're trying to filter a single room they help, but as stated you'll still get recycle from the HVAC system. I've got a blueair pure it's pretty legit, especially in peak pollen season.
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If you're trying to filter a single room they help, but as stated you'll still get recycle from the HVAC system. I've got a blueair pure it's pretty legit, especially in peak pollen season.
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Posted on 6/21/21 at 2:13 pm to CatfishJohn
The best air purifier for your home is a HEPA system that is hooked into your central hvac system. Make sure it's a certified HEPA filter inside the system and not a " HEPA Like".
I highly recommend products from Abatement Technologies. They have a fantastic By-Pass HEPA system with HEPA filter, charcoal filter and UV light.
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Stand alone room purifiers are a WASTE of money and will not provide anywhere close to a system that is connected to the central whole house hvac .
Also need to make sure your ductwork is mastic sealed to ensure no leaks. Returns can have leaks and pull dust and debris through your system, which will make your indoor coil dirty requiring the system to work harder and the electric bill rise. It also brings dust into the house.
I have a Indoor Air Quality certification and let me point out there isn't a 1 product cure all. Depending on humidity, customer complaints, leaks you need to use the correct IAQ product.
I highly recommend products from Abatement Technologies. They have a fantastic By-Pass HEPA system with HEPA filter, charcoal filter and UV light.
LINK
Stand alone room purifiers are a WASTE of money and will not provide anywhere close to a system that is connected to the central whole house hvac .
Also need to make sure your ductwork is mastic sealed to ensure no leaks. Returns can have leaks and pull dust and debris through your system, which will make your indoor coil dirty requiring the system to work harder and the electric bill rise. It also brings dust into the house.
I have a Indoor Air Quality certification and let me point out there isn't a 1 product cure all. Depending on humidity, customer complaints, leaks you need to use the correct IAQ product.
This post was edited on 6/21/21 at 2:26 pm
Posted on 6/21/21 at 2:16 pm to CatfishJohn
Portable units might be good for a room, but check out those filter replacement costs, they can be like inkjet cartridges... prohibitive.
Same comments as other posters, but I wanted to add that you might want to get a mold check. You can buy test kits that you simply stick on your vents or swab areas and mail off for testing.
We did this on a rental house once because we were suspicious, and the tests confirmed it and got us out of our lease without issue.
Same comments as other posters, but I wanted to add that you might want to get a mold check. You can buy test kits that you simply stick on your vents or swab areas and mail off for testing.
We did this on a rental house once because we were suspicious, and the tests confirmed it and got us out of our lease without issue.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 2:54 pm to CatfishJohn
Beeswax candles are phenomenal air purifiers.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 3:11 pm to notsince98
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Beeswax candles are phenomenal air purifiers.
Burning candles continually in your house will also soot up the Hvac filter and you will probably start seeing black around some of the supply vents. Do not recommend.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 3:12 pm to notsince98
quote:Are you related to Peej?
Beeswax candles are phenomenal air purifiers.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 3:15 pm to CatfishJohn
You get what you pay for.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 3:20 pm to CatfishJohn
Don't use an ozone generator.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 3:35 pm to SOSFAN
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Burning candles continually in your house will also soot up the Hvac filter and you will probably start seeing black around some of the supply vents. Do not recommend.
Well yeah, if you burn crap made candles containing too much fragrance they create excessive soot.
If you use well made candles with cotton wicks (and keep the wicks trimmed properly) this is not a real world issue.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 3:39 pm to soccerfüt
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Are you related to Peej?
Do some folks really not know that beeswax candles release tons of negative ions the exact same way as "air purifiers" do but they also have benefits for things like Asthma. The american lung association endorses the use of beeswax candles for asthma treatment.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 3:44 pm to CatfishJohn
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