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re: Archie Andrews will die on Wednesday saving his gay friend Kevin Keller

Posted on 7/14/14 at 3:50 pm to
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Posted on 7/14/14 at 3:50 pm to
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So you think upwards of 10% of people with children look at little Jill or Johnny and are hoping for a gay lifestyle choice?


I think way more than 10% of people with children realize that seeing a reference to homosexuality will not result in their children making a "gay lifestyle choice".
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 7/14/14 at 3:50 pm to
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Unless you are using 'coming out' differently than I thought, it appears to be a gay reference. My bad if it isn't.


it only turned into a gay reference when people asked what it meant after the movie came out and the director said "sure...let's make it a coming out reference" and then peoples head exploded
Posted by Paige
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Posted on 7/14/14 at 3:50 pm to
There's much more to a relationship than what you do in bed

Idiot
Posted by tigerfoot
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Posted on 7/14/14 at 3:53 pm to
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the director said "sure...let's make it a coming out reference" and then peoples head exploded
so he wasn't fricking with us, he just lucked into some free pub?
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 7/14/14 at 3:55 pm to
I don't know man

I just read the interview where he stated that he left the ad lib in to see where people took it and they all immediately took it to be gay so he ran with it
Posted by lsu2006
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Posted on 7/14/14 at 3:55 pm to
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So you think upwards of 10% of people with children look at little Jill or Johnny and are hoping for a gay lifestyle choice? I would bet if you polled 100 parents leaving an animated childrens movie you would get at least 90 that would rather not have gay references.

I want my kids to know that there are gay people in the world and that I will love them unconditionally whether they're gay, straight or bisexual. I don't see anything inherently wrong with "gay lifestyle references" whatever that is.
Posted by tigerfoot
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Posted on 7/14/14 at 3:55 pm to
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will not result in their children making a "gay lifestyle choice".


Did anyone say that a reference would have a negative impact on a kid? No more than when my drunk BIL lets go an F bomb at Thanksgiving, would rather him not do it, but it isn't going to have a terribly detrimental effect on my children.

However, I would not ask him nor pay him to do it for 'shock' value?
Posted by tigerfoot
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Posted on 7/14/14 at 3:58 pm to
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I want my kids to know that there are gay people in the world and that I will love them unconditionally whether they're gay, straight or bisexual


Yes, and I want to teach them those things on my terms. I don't want to open up a Golden Book and see a centerfold either, even though I want them to know that naked pretty people are in the world.

There are a million avenues for social statements, a childrens movie or a comic book don't have to be those avenues.
Posted by lsu2006
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Posted on 7/14/14 at 4:04 pm to
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Yes, and I want to teach them those things on my terms. I don't want to open up a Golden Book and see a centerfold either, even though I want them to know that naked pretty people are in the wor

Fair enough. Not totally analogous, but I get it. Are you cool with children's movies containing Christian overtones?
This post was edited on 7/14/14 at 4:05 pm
Posted by AU_RX
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Posted on 7/14/14 at 4:05 pm to
I find it hard to believe that Archie bunker would take a bullet for a fruit. Especially after the way he talks to meathead.
Posted by Paige
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Posted on 7/14/14 at 4:08 pm to
Archie bunker is from all in the family
Posted by Redbone
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Posted on 7/14/14 at 4:08 pm to
Should shoot both of them for pushin the gay stuff down our throats ... no pun intended.
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Posted on 7/14/14 at 4:09 pm to
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Did anyone say that a reference would have a negative impact on a kid?


You said this:

quote:

So you think upwards of 10% of people with children look at little Jill or Johnny and are hoping for a gay lifestyle choice?


What did you mean by it?
Posted by GeauxColonels
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Posted on 7/14/14 at 4:13 pm to
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Betty and Veronica are going to be lesbian lovers

What's wrong with that?
Posted by tigerfoot
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Posted on 7/14/14 at 4:14 pm to
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Are you cool with children's movies containing Christian overtones?


yes,they happen to concur with my beliefs. But even if I went to a Christian movie, I wouldn't want to see pictures of Jesus hanging on the cross in technocolor for my 3 and 5 year old. If I wanted them to see that I would have taken them to the Mel Gibson film. It is just about not being surprised at the content.

Hell I have a gay nephew, we love him and are glad he is finally happy. I feel like I can adequately address that with my kids, but if I bought a book to help the discussion...I would like to open it up and have it talk about acceptance of others, not hatred of others. If people cared about this directors social viewpoint, they would be flocking to areas to here him talk about his views.
Posted by LSUballs
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Posted on 7/14/14 at 4:15 pm to
Are you going to tell your son it's ok if he wants to like boys instead of girls?
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 7/14/14 at 4:16 pm to
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Are you going to tell your son it's ok if he wants to like boys instead of girls?

I absolutely will. Pretty sick to tell him otherwise IMO.

Eta: assuming the topic comes up. Not just randomly out of the blue
This post was edited on 7/14/14 at 4:19 pm
Posted by tigerfoot
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Posted on 7/14/14 at 4:17 pm to
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What did you mean by it?


I mean of the 1000s of parents greeting new kids into the world today, I doubt more than 1 in 10 is envisioning a future that includes an alternative lifestyle.

Not that if they see a gay reference it is going to have a huge impact. Just that if given the choice, like if you go to a childrens movie, most parents don't want those scenes, comments, or insinuations no matter how vague, shown in front of the kids.
Posted by QuietTiger
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 7/14/14 at 4:17 pm to
Archie died for me in the early 60's, so he's as old as dirt, let him take one for a friend.
Posted by LSUballs
RayVegas LA
Member since Feb 2008
37835 posts
Posted on 7/14/14 at 4:19 pm to
It's pretty sick alright. Good luck
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