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Apocalypse WWI: debating the tactics

Posted on 2/5/16 at 10:41 pm
Posted by SurfTide
San Diego, CA
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 2/5/16 at 10:41 pm
Watching Apocalypse WWI got me thinking about modern day parallels, how I would realistically react if I found myself in that situation, the insanity of the whole affair, etc.

One question I really wondered about: what kept the troops from mass desertion?

Individual deserters/those who refused to fight were obviously shot by firing squad, but what was the motivation to prevent entire divisions from just saying "frick this"?

Think about your life: at some points of the war you hav less than a 50% chance of survival. You are constantly ordered to go "over the top" by distant generals, to get mowed down by the newly industrialized warfare techniques. A good charge will capture the equivalent of a football field at the cost of several thousand troops. You live in filthy disease ridden muddy open trenches, at constant risk of dying a horrible death from gas, shells, etc. You are also starving and cold. If you are lucky enough to be injured, you will be horribly disfigured for life in many cases. While you are suffering, your officers are living in the chateaus in the rear, eating, smoking, and drinking as part of the class system. Seems like there is no way this could have lasted four years.
This post was edited on 2/6/16 at 12:09 am
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 2/5/16 at 10:44 pm to
The Christmas Truce

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You are constantly ordered to go "over the top" by distant generals


Have you watched Kubrick's Paths of Glory?
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 2/5/16 at 10:44 pm to
quote:

One question I really wondered about: what kept the troops from mass desertion?


A sense of duty, honor and loyalty to the motherland and their fellow men.
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 2/5/16 at 10:44 pm to
Well in Russia troops did dessert en masse. The German troops started to say screw it at the end.

The French started shooting their own.
Posted by zonk33
Member since Feb 2016
91 posts
Posted on 2/5/16 at 10:45 pm to
At some point you become numb to it and your mind sorta of shuts down in order to cope with it. All I can is thank you to all those veterans who made it possible for many of us to avoid the draft and terrible wars.
Posted by SurfTide
San Diego, CA
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 2/5/16 at 10:47 pm to
quote:

Have you watched Kubrick's Paths of Glory?


No, good? I like everything of his that I've seen.
Posted by tennvol
Member since Nov 2014
2495 posts
Posted on 2/5/16 at 10:48 pm to
People back then had spirit, unlike today's pussies.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134865 posts
Posted on 2/5/16 at 10:48 pm to
You'll find yourself mesmerized by Kirk Douglas' chin dimple.
This post was edited on 2/5/16 at 10:54 pm
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
124276 posts
Posted on 2/5/16 at 10:49 pm to
Listen to Dan Carlin's "Blueprint for Armageddon"


Best WW1 program I've heard so far
Posted by pensacola
pensacola
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Posted on 2/5/16 at 10:49 pm to
How does one watch Apocalypse WWI ?
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55486 posts
Posted on 2/5/16 at 10:51 pm to
quote:

No, good? I like everything of his that I've seen.



Yes! One of the best war movies ever made.
Posted by SurfTide
San Diego, CA
Member since Nov 2015
1658 posts
Posted on 2/5/16 at 10:54 pm to
quote:

People back then had spirit, unlike today's pussies.


0/10 troll attempt
Posted by zonk33
Member since Feb 2016
91 posts
Posted on 2/5/16 at 10:55 pm to
Also, it wasn't always the "distant" Generals in WW1 giving the orders. Let's not forget the bravery of Captain Truman who stood firm and fought while many of his soldiers fled while fighting in the Vosges Mountains.

Posted by Minnesota Tiger
Member since Oct 2005
4414 posts
Posted on 2/5/16 at 10:59 pm to
Harry Truman was in battle at one point and lost his glasses while on horseback. He was blind, in the midst of hell. Frantically reached around, looking for them, and found them on the horses back, behind the saddle.
Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
18568 posts
Posted on 2/5/16 at 11:00 pm to
Duty
A pitch black sense of humor
Posted by SlowEasyConfident
Member since Nov 2015
6650 posts
Posted on 2/5/16 at 11:02 pm to
Trench warfare doesnt exist anymore
Posted by tennvol
Member since Nov 2014
2495 posts
Posted on 2/5/16 at 11:08 pm to
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0/10 troll attempt




You are so important! congrats!
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
64595 posts
Posted on 2/5/16 at 11:12 pm to
quote:

You are constantly ordered to go "over the top" by distant generals



This is a bit of a myth. First of all, the officer corps in most armies actually suffered higher percentages of casualties than the enlisted ranks. In the British Army alone over 200 generals were killed, wounded or captured. The French generals saw casualties in similar numbers as well. The German generals saw similar numbers of casualties, including two Field Marshals who died in the war.
Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
18568 posts
Posted on 2/5/16 at 11:17 pm to
I think he was just pointing out the failure to adapt to evolving ware fare by the generals and throwing away hundreds of thousands of lives in pointless experiments
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24552 posts
Posted on 2/5/16 at 11:18 pm to
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How does one watch Apocalypse WWI ?


It's on American Heroes channel. Channel 287 on DirecTv.
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