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Anyone following the NOLA statues hearing in court today?

Posted on 1/14/16 at 9:39 am
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20886 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 9:39 am
Theres a hearing on whether the Landrieu admin can pull down the statues starting about now. Anyone in the audience? Best source that I found was a NO Advocate reporter on twitter.

LINK

SIAP- checked.
Posted by Enfuego
Uptown
Member since Mar 2009
9882 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 9:54 am to
Can any legal experts provide context about the law that may prevent the monuments from being removed?
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
38746 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 10:23 am to
quote:

A Baton Rouge company that was hired by the City of New Orleans to remove several Confederate monuments is backing out of the job, after its employees received death threats and other area businesses threatened to cancel existing contracts with the firm. In a letter to the City of New Orleans dated Tuesday, Baton Rouge attorney Roy Maughan Jr. says his client, H&O Investments, is “unable to perform the tasks originally assigned in association with the removal of the monuments for the City of New Orleans.” The letter says the offices of H&O, which is owned by David Mahler, has received numerous telephone complaints, including death threats directed to Mahler and his staff. Mahler’s wife has also received threatening calls at the couple’s residence, the letter adds. “These telephone calls, unkindly name-calling and public outrage expressed in various social media, as well as other area businesses threatening to cancel existing contracts with H&O, have precipitated H&O’s cessation of work,” Maughan says in his letter.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20886 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 10:24 am to
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Jeff Adelson ?@jadelson

Barbier seems to be suggesting the City Council has flexibility to make political decision of whether the statues should be removed.




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Jeff Adelson ?@jadelson

Barbier seems very skeptical of arguments being made by plaintiffs

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10m10 minutes ago

Jeff Adelson ?@jadelson

Barbier: Why does the city need to have an ordinance to take down the monuments? Doesn't it have the right to say what's on its property?

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11m11 minutes ago

Jeff Adelson ?@jadelson

Barbier: I didn't understand (from suit and briefs) that you were arguing that the city code provision itself was unconstituional




This doesn't seem to be going well for those who want to keep the statues up.
Posted by Artie Rome
Hwy 1
Member since Jul 2014
8757 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 10:25 am to
They need some laws to protect the statues. Statue statutes.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20886 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 10:36 am to
My bet is that these statues are gone as soon as the ink dries on his decision.

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Barbier: "I want to move past that argument. I hope you have another argument."

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10m10 minutes ago

Jeff Adelson ?@jadelson

Barbier outright rejects that argument

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10m10 minutes ago

Jeff Adelson ?@jadelson

Attorney is arguing that a part of the nuisance argument specifically dealing with the Liberty Place court order should apply to all statues


Posted by Lambdatiger1989
NOLA
Member since Jan 2012
2290 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 10:42 am to
Barbier is a goof. Having had him hear a trial that I was involved in, I got the feeling he just doesn't give a shite about the law, and just takes the path of least resistance.
Posted by Winkface
Member since Jul 2010
34377 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 10:44 am to
Dude is getting crushed.
Posted by H.M. Murdock
B.A.'s Van
Member since Feb 2013
2113 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 10:45 am to
Sad day when these statues come down. Pathetic, truly.
Posted by DixonCider
H-Town
Member since Nov 2015
398 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 10:46 am to
Plaintiffs need a better attorney....
LINK

This guy would get the job done.
Posted by Ancient Astronaut
Member since May 2015
33059 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 10:50 am to
Don't read to much into that.
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
141093 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 10:51 am to
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Donald Chick Foret ?@chickforet
Lawyer for City says "death threats were made to original contractor". So they need to find a new contractor.

so now that is officially said in open court
Posted by 610man
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
7338 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 10:52 am to
I would say this hearing seems to be the final straw, pathetic if the city goes through with this.
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
141093 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 10:53 am to
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I would say this hearing seems to be the final straw, pathetic if the city goes through with this.

not condoning this 1 bit... but it seems like if the city can't find a contractor to do it... then nothing's going to happen
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
141093 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 10:54 am to
quote:

Meg Farris ?@megfarrisWWL
City says intent is not to destroy statues but to move them off of public property to some sort of Civil War historical area.

but didn't the city get rid of the Confederate/Civil War museum like 10-12 years ago?
Posted by Lambdatiger1989
NOLA
Member since Jan 2012
2290 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 10:56 am to
Yeah, the building is now part of the Ogden Museum. Nothing civil war about it except the cannon and the sign out front. The building is gutted and now a reception facility for Ogden
Posted by H.M. Murdock
B.A.'s Van
Member since Feb 2013
2113 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 10:58 am to
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Yeah, the building is now part of the Ogden Museum. Nothing civil war about it except the cannon and the sign out front. The building is gutted and now a reception facility for Ogden


Huh? Still there...oldest museum in LA.

LINK
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
141093 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 10:59 am to
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Jeff Adelson ?@jadelson
Worth noting that John Cummings - who has been rumored to be anonymous donor - wants to make a civil war statue park at Whitney Plantation

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Jeff Adelson ?@jadelson
Cummings has denied he is the anonymous donor, however.
This post was edited on 1/14/16 at 11:01 am
Posted by Lambdatiger1989
NOLA
Member since Jan 2012
2290 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 11:00 am to
don't know where they have all of that. Unless it is on some other level, but the two levels that I saw were gutted
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
141093 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 11:04 am to
quote:

Jeff Adelson ?@jadelson
Barbier to city: "I think your argument is that if you can put these up, you can take them down." City's attorney agrees
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