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re: Anyone ever have their kid in ambulance from school?

Posted on 12/1/23 at 4:03 pm to
Posted by Rick9Plus
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2020
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Posted on 12/1/23 at 4:03 pm to
It’s my understanding that the school is “in loco parentis” when the child is on campus during school hours. Meaning they are able to consent in place of a parent.

As far as the ambulance bill, and maybe hospital bills, you may be able to get that paid by the school’s insurance policy since the kid was in their care, since they were responsible for him and therefore his injury.
Posted by TigerCoon
Member since Nov 2005
18879 posts
Posted on 12/1/23 at 4:03 pm to
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Anyone ever have their kid in ambulance from school?


mine took the bus
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
65805 posts
Posted on 12/1/23 at 4:04 pm to
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That’s pretty normal, like you the only thing concerning is the narcotics being administered. The monitoring most definitely is SOP, especially with kids as they can go from perfect to dying in a flash.


I'd say that's a crazy paragraph. From pretty normal to death in 2 sentences.

OP, I'd be pretty miffed over the entire paramedic deal honestly but that's because I can't stand illogical people who overreact.
Posted by Darla Hood
Near that place by that other place
Member since Aug 2012
13980 posts
Posted on 12/1/23 at 4:04 pm to
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It was fentanyl.
Maybe this specific narcotic requires monitoring?
Posted by Rick9Plus
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2020
1731 posts
Posted on 12/1/23 at 4:06 pm to
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Maybe this specific narcotic requires monitoring?


Yeah. It can cause deadly respiratory depression. I can see them reasonably giving it if the kid was screaming in pain.
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
11950 posts
Posted on 12/1/23 at 4:07 pm to
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It was fentanyl. And yes, you can get suspended if you keep advil in your pocket and not have the nurse give it to you.

They gave your child fentanyl without consent? That is unbelievable and seems very irresponsible.
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
Quantico
Member since May 2013
9011 posts
Posted on 12/1/23 at 4:10 pm to
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That's one hell of a leap.


Not really. Either you want the school to be able to make non emergency medical care decisions for your kid without speaking to you or you don't. They are one in the same.
This post was edited on 12/1/23 at 4:11 pm
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
53080 posts
Posted on 12/1/23 at 4:15 pm to
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I'm glad they helped and quickly. I'm not so happy they gave him those drugs to a minor without parent permission and now expecting a $5K bill for a 1.5 mile ride to the ER.

Teachers already give tranny drugs to students what’s the difference?
Posted by Rick9Plus
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2020
1731 posts
Posted on 12/1/23 at 4:15 pm to
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Either you want the school to be able to make non emergency medical care decisions for your kid without speaking to you or you don't.


This case was emergency care, though. They called an ambulance. They didn’t have x-ray on site to know it was just a dislocated shoulder. These are PE teachers and EMTs.
Posted by ChunkyLover54
Member since Apr 2015
6530 posts
Posted on 12/1/23 at 4:15 pm to
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As far as the ambulance bill, and maybe hospital bills, you may be able to get that paid by the school’s insurance policy since the kid was in their care, since they were responsible for him and therefore his injury.


Yeah, it’s possible. I got ER bill already. My wife was there and consented, I’m less worried about that.

I don’t have anything from paramedics/school. Maybe it is covered and a non issue? I’m hesitant to call and was waiting to take action until I get a massive bill.

I don’t like how it happened but at the end of the day he was taken care of. But potentially this is not a trivial amount of money at stake should this massive bill come
This post was edited on 12/1/23 at 4:16 pm
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
Quantico
Member since May 2013
9011 posts
Posted on 12/1/23 at 4:16 pm to
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This case was emergency care, though.


A dislocated shoulder isn't an emergency. His life was not in danger. The outcome is no different whether he gets pain meds and rides in an Ambulance for $5k or if he waits 20 minutes for his mom to get there and drive him to the ER or home if that's what they decide to do.
This post was edited on 12/1/23 at 4:18 pm
Posted by Rick9Plus
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2020
1731 posts
Posted on 12/1/23 at 4:18 pm to
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A dislocated shoulder isn't an emergency. His life was not in danger.


Would you trust a PE teacher or a paramedic to make that determination? The people who are first to cry lawsuit for calling the paramedics are also the first to cry lawsuit if you don’t call the paramedics if it ends up being a serious injury.
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
Quantico
Member since May 2013
9011 posts
Posted on 12/1/23 at 4:20 pm to
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Would you trust a PE teacher or a paramedic to make that determination?


YES. If he's not dying, call the fricking parents.

I trust them to call me WAY before I trust them to decide what kind of medical care he needs regardless of cost or consequence of the DRUGS they want to give him.
Posted by ChunkyLover54
Member since Apr 2015
6530 posts
Posted on 12/1/23 at 4:20 pm to
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Maybe this specific narcotic requires monitoring?


I assume it does. But administering it and not disclosing to parents that a condition is an ambulance ride is my concern
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
65805 posts
Posted on 12/1/23 at 4:20 pm to

The OP is right here to answer that type of conjecture. So, ask away
Posted by moe1967
South Louisiana
Member since Jul 2023
62 posts
Posted on 12/1/23 at 4:21 pm to
The school has insurance for this.

With your insurance and the school's insurance combined you should have to pay very little out-of-pocket.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
53080 posts
Posted on 12/1/23 at 4:22 pm to
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Did you want your son to be in pain?

If my son racked up a 5k medical bill he’d be feeling pain! I’d get the belt and he wouldn’t be able to sit for a week!
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
Quantico
Member since May 2013
9011 posts
Posted on 12/1/23 at 4:22 pm to
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With your insurance and the school's insurance combined you should have to pay very little out-of-pocket.


Yes because insurance companies are known for paying everything they can and not trying to get out of it because they judge the ambulance ride as unnecessary.
Posted by Rick9Plus
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2020
1731 posts
Posted on 12/1/23 at 4:23 pm to
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YES. If he's not dying, call the fricking parents. I trust them to call me WAY before I trust them to decide what kind of medical care he needs regardless of cost or consequence of the DRUGS they want to give him.


When you send your kid to public school (or private) you are authorizing them to act in place of you, the parent, if an emergency occurs. There is no way the teacher could have known it was ONLY a dislocated shoulder and not something life-threatening.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101586 posts
Posted on 12/1/23 at 4:24 pm to
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Lawyer up for what?

You gonna deny your kid pain meds?




Yeah, I'm trying to figure out how that claim goes.

You took care of my kid! You gonna PAY!!!!
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