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Anyone else notice issues with homes built after 1990?
Posted on 10/15/18 at 1:59 pm
Posted on 10/15/18 at 1:59 pm
I don't know why this is a trend, but it definitely exists.
Homes built sometime after the 80's to present should be technically classified as "lemons". I have several friends who have bought these newly built neighborhood homes and each has had problems within 5-10 years of purchase.
Roof leaks, fixtures breaking, mold from poor ventilation, yards that have sink holes, cracking bricks, uneven surfaces, fences falling down, rust, driveways look like jigsaw puzzles, even the streets of these neighborhoods can look straight from Beirut with all potholes every 5 ft.
I have dozens of examples from University club to pelican point to denham and walker "estates". Each newly built lemon is a money pit in just a few years.
I grew up here and grew up in a home built in the early 70's and bought my home, which was built in the 40's, and have never had a problem with either. Just a new coat of paint and that was all the maintenance one needed. Even after 70 years(last 40 with one owner no remodel during that time), to update my home I only needed to replace a single cracked joist. I updated the plumbing & electric(which is understandable)...but I didn't "need to".
I understand new homes are "prettier" but they look like crap in 10 years. Has anyone else noticed the shotty home craftsmanship of the last 30 years? Any ideas why they are so terrible?
Homes built sometime after the 80's to present should be technically classified as "lemons". I have several friends who have bought these newly built neighborhood homes and each has had problems within 5-10 years of purchase.
Roof leaks, fixtures breaking, mold from poor ventilation, yards that have sink holes, cracking bricks, uneven surfaces, fences falling down, rust, driveways look like jigsaw puzzles, even the streets of these neighborhoods can look straight from Beirut with all potholes every 5 ft.
I have dozens of examples from University club to pelican point to denham and walker "estates". Each newly built lemon is a money pit in just a few years.
I grew up here and grew up in a home built in the early 70's and bought my home, which was built in the 40's, and have never had a problem with either. Just a new coat of paint and that was all the maintenance one needed. Even after 70 years(last 40 with one owner no remodel during that time), to update my home I only needed to replace a single cracked joist. I updated the plumbing & electric(which is understandable)...but I didn't "need to".
I understand new homes are "prettier" but they look like crap in 10 years. Has anyone else noticed the shotty home craftsmanship of the last 30 years? Any ideas why they are so terrible?
This post was edited on 10/15/18 at 2:02 pm
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Posted on 10/15/18 at 2:01 pm to Kujo
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Any ideas why they are so terrible?
Cheap materials and compressed timeline from the developer.
Aren't most of these newer homes pre-fabricated?
This post was edited on 10/15/18 at 2:04 pm
Posted on 10/15/18 at 2:03 pm to Kujo
They had to draw the line somewhere between when they did make things like they used to and when they don't make things like they used to. You found the line.
Posted on 10/15/18 at 2:06 pm to Kujo
Short cuts have been allowed and cheaper material is allowed now to make the houses more efficiently built.
The less time it takes and the less it costs to build, the more money the builder makes.
Then, contractors make money fixing the problems so it’s a win win for the working folks.
The less time it takes and the less it costs to build, the more money the builder makes.
Then, contractors make money fixing the problems so it’s a win win for the working folks.
Posted on 10/15/18 at 2:06 pm to Kujo
Cookie cutter developments built as rapidly as possible with little QA. Happened everywhere.
My first house in Slidell's Pinehurst subdivision was a cookie cutter with vinyl siding. They were throwing those up 3 and 4 at a time. The whole subdivision is section 8 now.
If you want to avoid buying a house like that, take the time to drive around the neighborhood. A slapdash development will typically use 3 or 4 house plans and stagger them so the same plan isn't used close enough to another to easily see it. You have to pay attention. And of course look at the materials used. Vinyl siding is a tipoff.
My first house in Slidell's Pinehurst subdivision was a cookie cutter with vinyl siding. They were throwing those up 3 and 4 at a time. The whole subdivision is section 8 now.
If you want to avoid buying a house like that, take the time to drive around the neighborhood. A slapdash development will typically use 3 or 4 house plans and stagger them so the same plan isn't used close enough to another to easily see it. You have to pay attention. And of course look at the materials used. Vinyl siding is a tipoff.
This post was edited on 10/15/18 at 2:20 pm
Posted on 10/15/18 at 2:06 pm to Kujo
Yes, older homes (like many other things) were built to last longer. But it's not hard to figure out which homes that are built these days that are likely going to have some problems. Any cookie-cutter neighborhood where homes were built by developers and then sold are all going to have issues for the most part. If you buy newer, just know that you are going to be replacing a lot of cheap crap that were built into the home.
Posted on 10/15/18 at 2:20 pm to TheHarahanian
i feel like that is all new construction these days
Posted on 10/15/18 at 2:21 pm to Kujo
My nephew and his wife's first house in one of those cookie cutter subdivisions off Bluebonnet was terrible.. Most of the outside wood work was already pretty much rotted out...
House was probably less than 10 years old...
House was probably less than 10 years old...
Posted on 10/15/18 at 2:24 pm to Kujo
quote:
Any ideas why they are so terrible?
No comprende, amigo...
Posted on 10/15/18 at 2:34 pm to Kujo
I think it all depends on where they are located. Building codes have continued to change over the years, some places faster than others..
This is just my opinion so I don't need anyone telling me about their experience to prove me wrong, but I think neighborhood homes that are built to sell (contractors buy several lots, build homes on them then sell them) are going to have more "issues" than homes people contract themselves (not that every house that the owner had contracted out to build is better quality).
When contractors build homes to sell, they do just enough to meet code. From a business end, it only makes sense they build it as cheap as possible then they can turn around and sell it for the same amount that a better quality house in the neighborhood cost to build.
This is just my opinion so I don't need anyone telling me about their experience to prove me wrong, but I think neighborhood homes that are built to sell (contractors buy several lots, build homes on them then sell them) are going to have more "issues" than homes people contract themselves (not that every house that the owner had contracted out to build is better quality).
When contractors build homes to sell, they do just enough to meet code. From a business end, it only makes sense they build it as cheap as possible then they can turn around and sell it for the same amount that a better quality house in the neighborhood cost to build.
Posted on 10/15/18 at 2:37 pm to OweO
the house i had in dutchtown seemed to be very well built. it was built in 2004 and i was not the original owner. i had to move due to work but if i was still in LA, i'd still be in that house.
Posted on 10/15/18 at 2:38 pm to TheHarahanian
Wouldn't every real estate salesperson know this? shouldn't they be doing a service to clients in warning them about these homes?
also, a theory, becaue all these homes are built in flood areas was the idea to just build them to last the 10-20 years between insurance claims?
also, a theory, becaue all these homes are built in flood areas was the idea to just build them to last the 10-20 years between insurance claims?
Posted on 10/15/18 at 2:39 pm to Kujo
If you have a crew cab truck they no longer fit in "standard" sized garages. I've purchased two homes in the last 5 years and my truck doesn't fit in either garage.
Both were built in 2012. One was a developer home used for a rental and the other is a custom home.
Both were built in 2012. One was a developer home used for a rental and the other is a custom home.
This post was edited on 10/15/18 at 2:40 pm
Posted on 10/15/18 at 2:39 pm to Kujo
quote:I think this is mostly anecdotal and not an accurate description. Sure, there are some problem houses that were done slapdash (particularly those built in 2006/07 when the builders new the spigot was about to be shut off.
Anyone else notice issues with homes built after 1990?
But in general, almost all house tech is radically superior to 30 years ago.
Posted on 10/15/18 at 2:54 pm to Kujo
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Anyone else notice issues with homes built after 1990?
1990 seems to be the line.
1980s is usually solid construction and generously sized lots, but often with very cheap finishes on the gulf coast (recession houses). These are okay if they are renovated and you are okay with ranch homes.
The ones built after 2005 in Louisiana all seem to be A Hayes Town knockoffs or those faux french chateaux things. The finishes and layouts are a lot nicer though. I guess low interest rates and high oil prices will do that.
This post was edited on 10/15/18 at 2:57 pm
Posted on 10/15/18 at 2:55 pm to Big Scrub TX
I think I would tend to agree with you, Big Scrub. Our home is 16 years old, and has seemed solid. It is not, however, in a planned neighborhood or one of a group of homes built near the same time; so maybe that makes it different from what the OP is talking about.
Posted on 10/15/18 at 2:58 pm to Big Scrub TX
quote:
I think this is mostly anecdotal and not an accurate description. Sure, there are some problem houses that were done slapdash (particularly those built in 2006/07 when the builders new the spigot was about to be shut off.
I agree.
I think the OP was talking about the middle of the market homes and production housing.
Posted on 10/15/18 at 3:09 pm to Kujo
My house was built in 2007 by the developer, and the only thing I had an issue with was the cheap arse garbage disposal they put in. I went and installed a stainless one 2 years ago and have had 0 problems. My friend has a remodeled house built in the 50s and he has problems all the time (I presume from just old age and wear and tear). Actually, most of his issues are from the plumbing now that I think about it. But in the last 5 years, he's had to get a new AC and roof too.
Posted on 10/15/18 at 3:14 pm to Kujo
It is a multifa(u)ceted issue.
Posted on 10/15/18 at 3:16 pm to Kujo
Your mom complains to me about a bad paint job on the bedroom ceiling.
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