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re: Any of you married men with families ever quit your job without having another lined up?
Posted on 1/20/24 at 9:57 am to StTiger
Posted on 1/20/24 at 9:57 am to StTiger
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Public Accounting pays the best but they will work you to the bone
Maybe the highest ceiling but seniors and managers can make more outside of public and the hours are way better.
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Posted on 1/20/24 at 9:57 am to MisslePig
If you don't have any drive but have a CPA State job or Parish job. They need certs.
You could coast to penison.
You could coast to penison.
This post was edited on 1/20/24 at 9:59 am
Posted on 1/20/24 at 9:58 am to StTiger
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Public Accounting pays the best
They most certainly do not until you reach a partner level or never develop skill sets.
Posted on 1/20/24 at 10:15 am to cbree88
I did at my last job. They brought in a new COO who just ran that work environment to shite. Probably 10 or so defections within a couple months, quite a few non-disclosures were signed because of how he ran off certain people. I was relatively untouched for about the first year, then I could see his target started to get pointed at me. When he wanted to put me on a PIP, I gave my 3 weeks notice with no parachute...could have done 2 weeks but I was stalling for time. Ended up getting the job offer of a lifetime on my last day there. 3 years later and I haven't looked back. Probably not my brightest decision, but I had faith it would all work out.
Posted on 1/20/24 at 11:43 am to cbree88
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I’m fine with working 50 hours a week or more if I’m actually able to do my job. The problem is that the people who hired me didn’t bother to train me on how to do my job, and now everything is turning into a shite storm now that it’s busy season.
How big is your firm?
Sounds like a small firm where the managers / partners don't know how to delegate work, so they are so busy getting their own billable hours that they don't have the time, or more accurately, the patience to train.
This is why smaller firms traditionally used to not like to hire newbies (and it sure seems like you don't have a lot of experience). They knew they didn't have time or patience to train people.
The larger firms have their issues... but training usually isn't one of them... their training programs are usually top notch.
What do you feel like you are not being trained at? Do you not know how to use the software? All of the big tax and accounting programs have tons of tutorials out there.
Do you not know tax law? No one knows crap about tax law when they start... hell after 20 years there's a ton of new stuff I see every day. Get familiar with your research software.
I hate the term SALY, but if you are this new... you are probably getting a lot of work that is repeat customers... just look at last year and try to follow along.
But you are going to likely have to take the initative to learn a lot of stuff yourself. Look, I used to tell all my newbies (back when I had newbies) that the first year ro two, you are going to suck at your job. You are going to fail, a whole lot. You are going to make tons of mistakes. You are NOT going to get anything through review without a ton of changes.
And there is nothing wrong with that. You need to learn. That is how you learn. But a lot of people show up with 3.9 GPAs and freak out when their first two hour return has 14 review notes. It's ok. We have all been there.
You have been a little hesitant to tell us much about your situation... I understand. But... find someone in your firm, in another firm, etc, that you can talk to, and go to for help. Some people will blow you off because our profession attracts a decent number of psychopaths. But others will help you... maybe not at that exact moment, but they will help you.
Posted on 1/20/24 at 11:55 am to Slevin7
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Easier to find a job when you have a job.
DO NOT quit until you have something else lined up. As someone that hires folks, fair or not, its a big red flag when someone does this
Posted on 1/20/24 at 11:59 am to cbree88
I have never done it, but I have certainly been tempted to.
You have some stuff to figure out. Does your wife work? If so, can yall live off her salary for a few months? How much savings do you have? Do you have the savings to survive at least 3-5 full months?
If your answer to these questions are all no, then you know you're just going to have to suck it up. Everyday when you get home, work like hell on applying to other jobs until you can finally receive an offer.
You have some stuff to figure out. Does your wife work? If so, can yall live off her salary for a few months? How much savings do you have? Do you have the savings to survive at least 3-5 full months?
If your answer to these questions are all no, then you know you're just going to have to suck it up. Everyday when you get home, work like hell on applying to other jobs until you can finally receive an offer.
Posted on 1/20/24 at 12:26 pm to LSUFanHouston
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But you are going to likely have to take the initative to learn a lot of stuff yourself. Look, I used to tell all my newbies (back when I had newbies) that the first year ro two, you are going to suck at your job. You are going to fail, a whole lot. You are going to make tons of mistakes. You are NOT going to get anything through review without a ton of changes.
This is so important for the new guys to understand. In the beginning, I think a lot of us feel that we aren't long for the profession. It's normal. You have to take your lumps, stay positive, and put in the work to get better. Training only does so much. You can sit through a week of slide decks covering various tax topics but that shite ain't going to stick without repetition and self-study.
This post was edited on 1/20/24 at 12:27 pm
Posted on 1/20/24 at 12:35 pm to Jorts R Us
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This is so important for the new guys to understand. In the beginning, I think a lot of us feel that we aren't long for the profession. It's normal. You have to take your lumps, stay positive, and put in the work to get better. Training only does so much. You can sit through a week of slide decks covering various tax topics but that shite ain't going to stick without repetition and self-study.
it really is. So many kids show up and have never "failed" at anything before... or not even fail... just not super excelled.
It's hard. I've had a LOT of 1st / 2nd years crying in my office over the years. They are so used to just instantly picking everything up without a lot of effort.
I tell them... look... in school... they give you everything in a nice package, and you just need to build it. In the real world, you get half the stuff you need, you don't know what you are missing, and a bunch of extra parts that aren't needed. It's hard when you don't even know what you need.
Just need to keep at it and you WILL learn, you will make a mistake 3, 4, 5 times, but then you figure it out.
Completelu normal... but a new concept if you never dealt with that before.
Posted on 1/20/24 at 12:36 pm to cbree88
At the first law firm where I worked, recruiters called all the time and I’d interview just for the hell of it. So when I made a change after about 4 years, it was easy. Seems like a bygone era in a lot of markets. And it’s a totally different game after decades of practice.
But the firm for which I left my first job has sold me a bill of goods in the interview process. I discovered this during the first week. Left at lunch of first Friday. Called recruiter and told her I was undoing the employment— like an annulment. It was that bad. Don’t regret any of it. Made ends meet until I closed on a property sale and later got a better job. BUT health insurance was next to nothing back then. I owned a house and had roommates/tenants. Single.
Things are different these days and family changes everything.
Just go get another job and then quit.
But the firm for which I left my first job has sold me a bill of goods in the interview process. I discovered this during the first week. Left at lunch of first Friday. Called recruiter and told her I was undoing the employment— like an annulment. It was that bad. Don’t regret any of it. Made ends meet until I closed on a property sale and later got a better job. BUT health insurance was next to nothing back then. I owned a house and had roommates/tenants. Single.
Things are different these days and family changes everything.
Just go get another job and then quit.
Posted on 1/20/24 at 1:51 pm to cbree88
Yes. Do NOT do it. Keep working and looking.
Posted on 2/10/24 at 7:09 am to cbree88
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Any of you married men with families ever quit your job without having another lined up?
Yep, just did. I call it “Retirement”.
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