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re: Any criminologists here? (NOLA crime edition)

Posted on 2/24/14 at 8:50 am to
Posted by DanTiger
Somewhere in Luziana
Member since Sep 2004
9480 posts
Posted on 2/24/14 at 8:50 am to
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The only way the serious violent crimes are going to be reduced is through community organized policing (COPS), which would require a huge influx of police officers. The officers get out of their cars and walk the streets and talk to residents constantly....to the point where criminals can no longer effectively lock down the community through fear of snitching, because snitching versus daily conversation with the police can't be discerned. This allows people to drop tips to the police as to who the problems are, and that problem can then be quickly dealt with.

When you utilize the current plan, which is 2-3 cars running around a district, going from call to call and doing no patrolling, you're destined to continue the current cycle.


N.O. is horribly short on officers to even answer all of the calls they receive. The number published in the paper is not the actual number of officers as they use support staff to inflate it. I believe N.O. now requires all hires to live in the city and they have some other rules, like no visible tatoos. As long as they impose silly hiring guidelines like those they will neve have enough officers because nobody wants to work there.
Posted by LateArrivalforLSU
Ascension Parish
Member since Sep 2012
3512 posts
Posted on 2/24/14 at 8:52 am to
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Education is only real answer but real effects take 20 years

Or, even longer. Or, if it will ever change. It's hard overcoming generation after generation of mindsets and cultural dictation to how one looks at education.
Posted by PelicanPoop
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2013
583 posts
Posted on 2/24/14 at 8:53 am to
I work on Tulane Ave. The transformation is amazing. The hospitals are a godsend and they haven't opened yet. Whole Foods on Broad Street??? I'm stunned Walgreens hasn't acquired property on Tulane Ave yet near those hospitals.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58108 posts
Posted on 2/24/14 at 8:53 am to
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Which begs another question. What is economic development?


We have a long ways to go, but there has been some nice improvements in this area also.

The hotel and restaurant mgmt field is going well. G.E. opened a small technology office here. There are many great articles in national pubs about the tech start ups.
The movie filming industry is doing well.
Michoud out in the east is slow growing back to something good.
These two new hospitals will be bringing in alot of good jobs. Lots of affiliated businesses in the medical field will follow.

Internation Ship Holdings is moving there corporate HQ to the warehouse district.

In short, the shite is happening. They can't build enough condos and apartments to keep up with the demand.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58108 posts
Posted on 2/24/14 at 8:54 am to
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Or, if it will ever change


The schools are doing much much better than they were before Katrina.
Posted by PelicanPoop
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2013
583 posts
Posted on 2/24/14 at 8:55 am to
Over a thousand new apartments u/c now downtown. Huge influx of 20 and 30 something's about to flood that area.
Posted by tLSU
Member since Oct 2007
8621 posts
Posted on 2/24/14 at 9:00 am to
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You do realize police officers are lazy tax collectors and do not want to do any actual police work?


No, they aren't, and this comes from someone who was a prosecutor and worked with a ton of them. Most police here are annoyed with the upper leadership and are terrified to have to patrol in one man units in New Orleans.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58108 posts
Posted on 2/24/14 at 9:01 am to
You need to tell your cop friends to tell their black city leaders to fck off and allow hiring of those not living in New Orleans
Posted by tLSU
Member since Oct 2007
8621 posts
Posted on 2/24/14 at 9:02 am to
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N.O. is horribly short on officers to even answer all of the calls they receive. The number published in the paper is not the actual number of officers as they use support staff to inflate it. I believe N.O. now requires all hires to live in the city and they have some other rules, like no visible tatoos. As long as they impose silly hiring guidelines like those they will neve have enough officers because nobody wants to work there.


There are nights where there are literally one or two units in an entire district. And you're absolutely right about the idiotic hiring restrictions imposed by the City Council and Serpas. You impose a residency requirement when you have a huge number of applicants and you want to show some loyalty to the citizens of the community, not when you can't find people to fill the job. Same thing with that moronic tattoo policy. I have friends who are 8-10 year veterans of the NOPD who are now expected to wear long sleeves in the New Orleans summer because of this.
Posted by DanTiger
Somewhere in Luziana
Member since Sep 2004
9480 posts
Posted on 2/24/14 at 9:12 am to
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You need to tell your cop friends to tell their black city leaders to fck off and allow hiring of those not living in New Orleans


The cops want hiring to take place outside of the city very much and they also would like to be able to move outside of the city of they plan to do so. They have no control over the council.
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
26498 posts
Posted on 2/24/14 at 9:13 am to
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There are nights where there are literally one or two units in an entire district. And you're absolutely right about the idiotic hiring restrictions imposed by the City Council and Serpas. You impose a residency requirement when you have a huge number of applicants and you want to show some loyalty to the citizens of the community, not when you can't find people to fill the job. Same thing with that moronic tattoo policy. I have friends who are 8-10 year veterans of the NOPD who are now expected to wear long sleeves in the New Orleans summer because of this.


Saw Serpas speak and someone specifically asked him about the hiring policy with respect to out-of-Parish citizens and his answer made me seem as if he wasn't responsible for that idiotic policy. I'm not sure if it's a City Council provision or if he actually mandated it.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58108 posts
Posted on 2/24/14 at 9:14 am to
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I'm not sure if it's a City Council provision or if he actually mandated it.


I'm quite positive its the city council.
After this next council election, Mitch needs to put his big boy pants and on beat them into submission or do some tradeoffs of some kind to get them to change this idiotic rule.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101321 posts
Posted on 2/24/14 at 9:17 am to
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Saw Serpas speak and someone specifically asked him about the hiring policy with respect to out-of-Parish citizens and his answer made me seem as if he wasn't responsible for that idiotic policy.


Of course he's not responsible for that.

I'm no huge fan of Serpas, but that policy has absolutely nothing to do with him or his call.
Posted by DanTiger
Somewhere in Luziana
Member since Sep 2004
9480 posts
Posted on 2/24/14 at 9:23 am to
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I'm no huge fan of Serpas, but that policy has absolutely nothing to do with him or his call.


I agree. This is more agenda based N.O. politics pushed through by the council. They know this is a moronic policy but they feel it gets them votes and helps them in their community.
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