re: American Citizens: U.S. Border Agents Can Search Your Cellphone

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Wait, what's the difference between border patrol and just regular law enforcement?

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He thinks border patrol only operates at the borders.

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Wait, what's the difference between border patrol and just regular law enforcement?

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border patrol doesn't seek out people that haven't crossed the border

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border patrol doesn't seek out people that haven't crossed the border

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Not sure if intentional or not, but you're completely ignoring or missing the point of my question, regarding YOUR reasoning for why it's ok with you.

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It is clear that this is a classic case of technology outrunning legislative / constitutional law.

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Eh, not really. Part of the probable cause FOR Customs and Borders to search electronic devices are the technology import/export laws. Some of our common everyday stuff like phones, PC's, tablets, and the SOFTWARE on them are specifically forbidden from being exported outside the USA.

Heck, the old WebTV from MicroSoft was banned from export, may even still be. It was limited to pretty much Continental USA only. Some of the US Territories and stuff in the Pacific could not legally import/export those crappy units. Kinda ironic since they were made by Sony overseas.

So, Customs and Borders does have the "right" to search for export banned software/hardware.

They just had the WikiLeaks posting of highly classified CIA info. That was illegal data/software exported from this nation. They missed searching someone's technology obviously.

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BUT HERE IS THE RUB. The libs decrying this searching of cell phones were fricking silent for 8 years while their party ran the country. But three months of Trump and they are screaming about cell phone searches. Show me how many of these searches occurred under the previous administration and then we can talk.

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Agree. The quoted story states 4900 searches of cell phones, etc. in January. POTUS Trump was sworn in on Jan. 20. The story never mentions how many in December 2016. It did state the numbers were increasing throughout 2016 though.

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They have authority within 100 miles of the border, and not just land borders- sea borders as well. 2/3 of the US live in this zone.

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this math seems way off.

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maybe you need to read up on it.

It's not that hard to see the majority of the US population lives in the orange zone.

List of permanent checkpoints[edit]

32 permanent checkpoints (August 2009)

Permanent and tactical checkpoints in the San Diego sector

Permanent and tactical checkpoints in the Tucson sector

Permanent and tactical checkpoints in the Laredo sector

Permanent and tactical checkpoints in the Rio Grande Valley sector
This list is incomplete; you can help by expanding it.
California[edit]
San Clemente - located 7 miles south of San Clemente on Interstate 5. --33°21'9.47?N 117°31'32.26?W
Temecula - located 24 miles north of Escondido on Interstate 15. -- 33°26'48.81?N 117°08'5.18?W
Highway 79 - located 1 mile west of Sunshine Summit.
I-8 West - located 3 miles east of Pine Valley on Interstate 8. --32°47'50.41?N 116°29'47.28?W
Highway 94 - located 24 miles east of San Diego on California State Route 94. -- 32°39'50.81?N 116°49'6.76?W
Highway 78/86 - located just south of the intersection of California State Routes 78 and 86 on northbound side. -- 33°07'29.90?N 115°51'17.13?W
Highway 111 - located between Niland and Bombay Beach. -- 33°21'37.42?N 115°38'41.47?W
Highway S2 - located 7 miles north of Ocotillo and I-8 in eastern San Diego County on S2 (Imperial Hwy/Sweeney Pass Road) between I-8 and State Route 78
Arizona[edit]
I-8 East - located 15 miles east of Yuma on Interstate 8. --32°39'35.44?N 114°21'50.26?W
I-19 heading North from Nogales just north of Tubac. --31°39'41.75?N 111°03'40.27?W
Arivaca Road Heading Northeast through Amado, located near mile marker 22 --31°43'33.8?N 111°04'46.8?W
AZ Hwy 286 heading North from Sasabe to Three Points. --31°49'41.9?N 111°25'29.2?W
AZ Hwy 86 Heading East, off the TO reservation, before three points --32°03'52.9?N 111°22'29.9?W
Indian Highway 15 North of Sells near Kahatk. --32°33'03.4?N 111°55'44.8?W
AZ Hwy 90 heading north from Whetstone to Benson --31°44'57.53?N 110°20'58.86?W
AZ Hwy 80 heading north from Tombstone to Benson (at junction with AZ 82 west) --31°44'57.28?N 110°5'51.38?W.
US Hwy 95 heading north from Yuma to Quartzsite 53.4 mi N of Yuma 33.259464, -114.243200 [12]
AZ Hwy 85 located 4.7 miles south of Why --32°12'08.7768?N 112°45'32.9724?W
AZ Hwy 85 located 18.4 miles south of Gila Bend --32°42'52.9632?N 112°50'31.2972?W
New Mexico[edit]
I-10 West — located 22 miles west of Las Cruces on Interstate 10, between mile markers 120-121. --32°15'01.43?N 107°07'15.99?W
I-25 North — located 23 miles north of Las Cruces on Interstate 25. --32°35'49.6?N 106°56'41.6?W
U.S. 70 East — located 15 miles southwest of Alamogordo on U.S. Route 70, between mile markers 198-199. --32°45'55.34?N 106°10'54.26?W[13]
Alamogordo — located 30 miles south of Alamogordo on US Route 54, between mile markers 40-41. --32°31'42.97?N 106°1'42.08?W
NM Highway 11 — located 22.6 miles south of Deming on NM Hwy 11, between mile markers 12-13. --31°57'52.01?N 107°40'45.09?W
NM Highway 185 — located 13 miles northwest of Radium Springs on NM Hwy 185, between mile markers 25-26. --32°36'11.63?N 107°1'17.45?W
Texas[edit]
U.S. Route 62 – 33 miles east of El Paso. --31°49'34.6?N 105°55'04.8?W
Sierra Blanca - located 5 miles west of Sierra Blanca on Interstate 10. --31°11'29.84?N 105°25'46.83?W
Eagle Pass - located 11 miles east of Eagle Pass on U.S. Route 57. --28°47'50.45?N 100°22'5.34?W
Eagle Pass/Carrizo Springs - located 30 miles West Southwest of Eagle Pass, Texas on U.S. Route 277. --28°37'32.6640?N 100°03'32.6016?W
Brackettville/Uvalde - located 60 miles east of Del Rio, Texas on Highway 90. --29°12'57.9024?N 99°56'32.8452?W
Laredo - located 29 miles north of Laredo on Interstate 35. --27°54'17.85?N 99°23'37.59?W
Laredo 83 - located 35 miles north of Laredo on Highway 83. --27°59'13?N 99°31'39?W
Freer - located 16 miles west of Freer on U.S. Route 59. --27°46'26.79?N 98°50'44.09?W
Oilton - located 6 miles east of Oilton on Highway 359. --27°26'35.72?N 98°53'14.75?W
Falfurias - located 14 miles south of Falfurrias on U.S. Highway 281. --27°1'29.71?N 98°8'18.39?W
Sarita - located 14 miles south of Sarita on U.S. Route 77. --27°0'58?N 97°47'39?W
Hebbronville - located 1 mile south of Hebbronville on TX 16 S --27°16'58.7136?N 98°41'36.3840?W
Hebbronville - located 50 yards south on FM 1017 at "T" intersection of Highway 285. --27°17'48.3108?N 98°39'46.9872?W
Alpine - located 10 miles south of Alpine on Texas State Highway 118. --30°11'54?N 103°34'46?W
Brownsville - located on Boca Chica highway leading to Boca Chica Beach --25°55'24.6?N 97°22'18.8?W
Marfa - located 4.5 miles south of Marfa on U.S. Route 67 --30°15'06.43?N 104°02'57.88?W

thats the only permanent checkpoints listed.

there isn't one checkpoint in louisiana that im going to have to drive through

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its because just because a piece of technology exists, it doesn't mean you have to use it to its full extent.

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So you would decline a search like that?

As much fun as this has been I have to go shovel snow.

If I may, let me try and sum up your argument- you won't care until it affects you. If you agree then it's settled.