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re: Amazon's user review system is worthless
Posted on 5/12/14 at 9:25 am to Cooter Davenport
Posted on 5/12/14 at 9:25 am to Cooter Davenport
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So some of those over-rated products are actually still pretty good values.
right, thats exactly what you're getting though. a mediocre product that is probably overpriced.
they don't want it to be "too shitty" or the the whole 'marketing review gaming' they are doing at amazon will fall through.
altough in the case of that mediabridge router, one resilient REDDITOR single-handly took it down..it was a JUGGERNAUT before. category killer. they sold MILLIONS of that damn router and just look through this thread at how many people on TD have THAT SAME MODEL.
the tenda router is $15 at microcenter in houston..and rebranded as mediabridge at amazon and sold for $50.
same FCC number on the back of it.
This post was edited on 5/12/14 at 9:27 am
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Posted on 5/12/14 at 9:27 am to CAD703X
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do you disagree?
Yes
I know you know how to exclude webpages from your search results. Posted on 5/12/14 at 9:28 am to boom roasted
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Then don't shop on Amazon. Problem solved for you, buddy.
did you even take my suggestion?
you can't get away from amazon.
go try & find a review of [insert product here] on google.
go ahead. i'll wait.
i'd like to see how long it takes you to find some 'non amazon' search results.
i even gave you my trick of excluding the amazon domain to make it easier.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 9:30 am to CAD703X
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1500 count sheets dominate the first 2-3 pages of amazon in reviews...but its some complete shite
You should have known something was up when you see 1500 count sheets for cheap. I mean come on man...
Sounds like you want to take away any responsibility from the buyer here. You have to know some of this stuff is bogus just from the "it's too good to be true" factor.
This post was edited on 5/12/14 at 9:33 am
Posted on 5/12/14 at 9:32 am to CAD703X
This was tough.
ETA: And I'm aware Amazon was the third result, but still easy enough to get away from them.
ETA: And I'm aware Amazon was the third result, but still easy enough to get away from them.
This post was edited on 5/12/14 at 9:32 am
Posted on 5/12/14 at 9:32 am to CAD703X
I've literally had no problem ever when buying something outside of Amazon.
And I just did your experiment. Googled a recent Amazon purchase, 64gb Sandisk Cruzer review. Amazon had 2 of 10 results on the first page. Zero on the second page.
ETA: I'm honestly confused why you have so much trouble internet shopping outside of Amazon.
And I just did your experiment. Googled a recent Amazon purchase, 64gb Sandisk Cruzer review. Amazon had 2 of 10 results on the first page. Zero on the second page.
ETA: I'm honestly confused why you have so much trouble internet shopping outside of Amazon.
This post was edited on 5/12/14 at 9:39 am
Posted on 5/12/14 at 9:36 am to CAD703X
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go try & find a review of [insert product here] on google.
go ahead. i'll wait.
i'd like to see how long it takes you to find some 'non amazon' search results.
i even gave you my trick of excluding the amazon domain to make it easier.
I just searched for a Lincoln Model# K2278-1 welder reviews and only had one Amazon review and tons of other sites had reviews. But only one Amazon. Is that too much for you?
Posted on 5/12/14 at 9:38 am to boom roasted
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I'm honestly confused why you have so much trouble internet shopping outside of Amazon.
quote:
Amazon's user review system is worthless
this is an educational thread. i think you're missing the point.
i've never made a bad purchase outside of a 'questionable' $9 tea kettle that got me to thinking about how products end up as 'category killers' at amazon.
thought y'all would appreciate the insight..especially judging by many of the responses in this thread:
"duh, dude. amazon has verified purchasers so those reviews are real and you're just STUPID"
it seems alot of education is still lacking.
This post was edited on 5/12/14 at 9:39 am
Posted on 5/12/14 at 9:40 am to CAD703X
It seems to me most everyone is aware of the issues regarding "real" reviews on Amazon, as well as the internet in general.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 9:41 am to CAD703X
quote:
Amazon
It's such a useful website.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 9:42 am to CAD703X
quote:This was the post I responded to. YOU brought up the point that you can't get away from Amazon, all attempts to get outside reviews lead right back to Amazon. Me and others have clearly shown that it's easy to get reviews outside of Amazon. Now WE'RE the ones who are on a tangent and missing the point.
did you even take my suggestion?
you can't get away from amazon.
go try & find a review of [insert product here] on google.
go ahead. i'll wait.
i'd like to see how long it takes you to find some 'non amazon' search results.
10-4 buddy.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 9:44 am to LNCHBOX
quote:It's not just Amazon, or the internet; it's everywhere. Every advertisement you read is "voted the best by _____", or "ranked highest by _____". It's all bullshite. The quicker you realize that and do your due diligence, the better off you'll be.
It seems to me most everyone is aware of the issues regarding "real" reviews on Amazon, as well as the internet in general.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 9:50 am to boom roasted
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The quicker you realize that and do your due diligence, the better off you'll be.
its a shame too. people dont have the time to become experts about every single product they purchase and figure out when amazon is not being honest.* *(amazon sellers are not being honest made worse through amazon's flawed review/rating systems)
is that mediabridge router horrible? no. but its pretty mediocre and clearly overpriced.
would most people who just want a router for their cable modem ever look 'behind the curtain' and select something different?
most likely not.
i got burned (no pun intended) by a $9 tea kettle because i just didnt care enough to look beyond the fact it had 30x more reviews than any other tea kettle.
yep, my fault but the point is that people assume if there's a product with a billion reviews in a particular category at amazon, people must love it or they wouldnt have come back & rated a damn tea kettle.
turns out they probably didn't. its a case of this product's reviews being bot-ted out to make it the category leader at amazon.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 9:53 am to CAD703X
Amazon cannot monitor the reviews for every single product. If a product is not up to your standards, return it and complain. If enough people do that, Amazon will take action. Up until that point, however, what do you want Amazon to do? There will always be a way to game any review system.
ETA: In all seriousness, do you have any suggestions on how to fix the Amazon review system?
ETA: In all seriousness, do you have any suggestions on how to fix the Amazon review system?
This post was edited on 5/12/14 at 10:00 am
Posted on 5/12/14 at 10:15 am to boom roasted
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do you have any suggestions on how to fix the Amazon review system?
no but it scares me how much they dominate not only reviews..but placement in search engines. yes you can be savvy and avoid amazon reviews but like weeds, they keep showing up front-and-center when you search.
i think the problem is these no-name companies have found a goldmine in 'shelf location'. amazon is 'democratizing' (for lack of a better term) shelf space. anyone can put something up on the shelf at amazon as opposed Kroger where Kellogg's or Blue Bell ice cream pay big money to get their product displayed at eye-level.
back to my tea kettle. google 'amazon tea kettle' and here's what you see. my fault for not looking into this further, but damn..1,600 reviews next to '79' *and* a best-seller label?
lesson learned. question amazon "#1 best seller" tags.
NOTE: amazon put the "BEST SELLER" badge up..not the company listing that crappy tea pot.
it does amazon a disservice to directly or indirectly endorse this product with a badge.
eta whoever heard of "modelco" anyway?
This post was edited on 5/12/14 at 10:19 am
Posted on 5/12/14 at 10:20 am to boom roasted
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Me and others have clearly shown that it's easy to get reviews outside of Amazon. Now WE'RE the ones who are on a tangent and missing the point.
be careful..lots of those webpages you see that are not amazon results are actually just web-fronts to non-existent domains..and many times redirect you back to the amazon reviews.
many times i thought i've found independent reviews at a different location only to find once i clicked it, its simply a one page storefront that contains a link to amazon's product page and their reviews.
This post was edited on 5/12/14 at 10:21 am
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