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re: A question about the ISIS beheadings
Posted on 9/15/14 at 12:17 pm to baybeefeetz
Posted on 9/15/14 at 12:17 pm to baybeefeetz
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If so, how are they so calm?
I suspect they do "drills" daily. They prisoners probably think it's probably just part of the routine and they are going back to their holding cell right after.
Posted on 9/15/14 at 12:18 pm to 777Tiger
There are a lot of Americans working in the Middle East. From my perspective, they are primarily mercenaries. I'm not talking about Xe, Triple Canopy, et al security contractors, who are, of course, actual mercenaries. But most others, with the exception of career foreign service officers and most humanitarian aid groups, are just there for the higher pay.
If you're there for the money, you should also be willing to accept the intrinsic risks that accompany your larger paycheck and tax advantages. In that neck of the woods, those risks include political instability, religious xenophobia, random bombings and the occasional beheading.
I don't claim to know what the answer is, but my feeling is that we can't JDAM our way out of this problem. Unless a new Hitler comes to power with Muslims as his/her scapegoat, we can't "kill 'em all".
If you're there for the money, you should also be willing to accept the intrinsic risks that accompany your larger paycheck and tax advantages. In that neck of the woods, those risks include political instability, religious xenophobia, random bombings and the occasional beheading.
I don't claim to know what the answer is, but my feeling is that we can't JDAM our way out of this problem. Unless a new Hitler comes to power with Muslims as his/her scapegoat, we can't "kill 'em all".
Posted on 9/15/14 at 12:19 pm to Palmetto08
I saw the cartel video of the 4 women that were killed and nothing about that video suggested quick and painless to me. The guy swinging the ax trying to chop the one woman's head off was beyond evil.
Posted on 9/15/14 at 12:21 pm to Mr. Wayne
quote:I'm sure some have tried to run
I could not fathom being in that situation, but I have no idea how I would sit still. Would rather be killed on the run then having my head cut off. I guess they threaten a worse death, torture and prolonged over hours/days. Don't even like thinking about it
they may "punish" people who run and promise a painless death to those who don't.
Also, you have to remember that many of the people in that area beheaded are extremely religious and accept their fate
Posted on 9/15/14 at 12:24 pm to White Roach
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White Roach
I understand what you're saying and I'm not trying to be argumentative. I've actually had an offer to do some contract work over there and the money offered was the only reason I didn't immediately say GTFO. I guess what I'm trying to say that any civilian that goes into that region is fully aware of the potential consequences beforehand.
Posted on 9/15/14 at 12:28 pm to baybeefeetz
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If so, how are they so calm? I would be a mess.
You don't know that, because you've never been that close to certain death.
Fight or flight is out of the picture by that point. They are just trying to find peace.
Posted on 9/15/14 at 12:30 pm to baybeefeetz
Protocol for executions in the United States is to give the condemned valium. Presumably something similar is happening with these unfortunate people (and I am not equating the two scenarios, except that people figure out what works and what doesn't.) Also, I think when the string runs out and you know it's hopeless, your mind sort of detaches as a defense mechanism. People just rarely seem to fight in these situations, regardless of who's being executed, why, or by whom.
Posted on 9/15/14 at 12:39 pm to 777Tiger
777Tiger:
I agree 100% w/ your comment. If you go there, be aware of what you're getting into. Journalist, oil field engineer, truck driver or whatever... It's an unstable area of the world and Westerners are often viewed as an evil and corrupting influence by the religious fundamentalists.
I agree 100% w/ your comment. If you go there, be aware of what you're getting into. Journalist, oil field engineer, truck driver or whatever... It's an unstable area of the world and Westerners are often viewed as an evil and corrupting influence by the religious fundamentalists.
Posted on 9/15/14 at 12:51 pm to baybeefeetz
The real question is why we haven't destroyed the entire area. We are not going to meet their demands because they don't have a solution and will always have a reason to claim persecution. Kill an American and we will make your little shite hole glow in the dark is the only solution. Anyone remember the video clip of the small kid punching the big kid then all the sudden the little kid gets dropped? I'm guessing the other little shite heads saw that and reconsidered fricking with the big kid. This is what we need to do to crush this group and act as a deterrent to future cowards.
Posted on 9/15/14 at 1:11 pm to uway
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You don't know that, because you've never been that close to certain death.
Fight or flight is out of the picture by that point. They are just trying to find peace.
This. None of us can even fathom the psychology of certain death by another human being. If, logically, death is certain, resistance is futile and slow torture is the consequence of such resistance, you just want it to be over with as quickly as possible.
I'm not sure I wouldn't be in a state of full cooperation just to ensure quick death. None of us are sure, but, with any death there is a moment of surrender - and that is usually when death is certain. When it is certain the only option is surrender.
It is that moment of peace that you hear people refer to before death.
Posted on 9/15/14 at 1:19 pm to baybeefeetz
I watched the very first video of Nick Berg back I guess about 10 years now. Most gruesome thing I have ever seen and said I would never watch anything like that again.
I assume that they are given some kind of drugs that is the only way you would ever get me to sit still.
I assume that they are given some kind of drugs that is the only way you would ever get me to sit still.
Posted on 9/15/14 at 1:38 pm to NorthGwinnett LSU
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I watched the very first video of Nick Berg back I guess about 10 years now
I made the same mistake. I read up on it a few years ago and the people that knew Berg over there said he was very reckless. Would even go by himself in the worst parts. I feel bad for the guy and his family but you mess with the bull the horns will eventually get ya.
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