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re: $99 for a case of water: Texas officials report price gouging post-Harvey
Posted on 9/1/17 at 10:13 am to Pecker
Posted on 9/1/17 at 10:13 am to Pecker
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Allow the market to determine the cost of the goods
While I agree with this there is a thin line between a free market and taking advantage of people in a desperate situation.
I hope someone beats this guy within a inch of his life, then steals the water.
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Posted on 9/1/17 at 10:13 am to 50_Tiger
quote:The argument isn't that the seller should be greedy.
Sometimes doing the right fricking thing for your brothers/sisters supersedes the almighty dollar.
The argument is an economic one and it may do more good than price controls.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 10:13 am to BowDownToLSU
I've got two 50 gallon trash barrels full of gas for $15.00 per gallon, come and get it
:booboo: :booboo:
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Posted on 9/1/17 at 10:14 am to TeddyPadillac
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I'll gladly break their nose if they try to take it back from me.
violence against the free market...who are you...ANTIFA?
shameful
Posted on 9/1/17 at 10:14 am to Pecker
I wonder which is worse? The guy selling a case of water for $100 in a disaster zone that he purchased for $4 or the guy that pops him in the arse who only has $10 and four kids that are dehydrating?
I'd want to be on the jury for the guy that pulled the trigger. "Not guilty"
I'd want to be on the jury for the guy that pulled the trigger. "Not guilty"
Posted on 9/1/17 at 10:14 am to cas4t
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Trucks can not nor should not distribute gasoline. This is a major risk concern, and would undoubtedly not be covered by your commercial insurance policy in the event you have a spill while attempting to sell without proper risk management measures in place. This is an unrealistic scenario.
Plus they don't have that little sticker from the Ag Commissioner so it's a moot point.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 10:14 am to TeddyPadillac
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If i came across someone selling a case of water for $100, i'd simply give them $10, tell them to go frick themselves, and take the case of water. I'll gladly break their nose if they try to take it back from me.
In a disaster zone, this is definitely a possibility
. I don't have issues with the free market. There are indeed times where free market should be ignored. Times such as shown here in Houston.
I will agree with Pecker. My argument is more of morality in times of need.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 10:15 am to GFunk
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Gouging will absolutely limit local access in the immediate short term. Criminalizing gouging prevents that limitation in the immediate short term, which is when access is the most critical to prevent human suffering and potential loss-of-life.
Let's run with your argument. Charging gouging prices is bad bc it stops some people from getting product. Don't regular prices do that as well? In a disaster situation, we should require those with supply to go out and give it away for free then, right? Otherwise, some people won't be able to get it. This is the best solution right? I'm sure those with supply would be happy to cut their losses and give it away to help their brothers, even though they may be suffering too
Posted on 9/1/17 at 10:16 am to cas4t
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Trucks can not nor should not distribute gasoline. This is a major risk concern, and would undoubtedly not be covered by your commercial insurance policy in the event you have a spill while attempting to sell without proper risk management measures in place. This is an unrealistic scenario.
Temporary tank solutions are implemented all the time during large construction projects. It's a good way to track gasoline costs. I've worked with gas companies to have this done. It's a simple process that requires me to pick up the phone, order a tank at a specific size and then set up a payment account and refill schedule.
This post was edited on 9/1/17 at 10:20 am
Posted on 9/1/17 at 10:16 am to Displaced
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if you are arguing that the guy doing this is ok but the store doing it is not then you are stuck in an infinite loop of stupidity.
If that is the way you took it
Posted on 9/1/17 at 10:18 am to HubbaBubba
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Both the thief and the unscrupulous business remove the application of moral justification. It imposes a level of price discrimination that could become life-threatening for people without the means to purchase life-sustaining goods. These blind justifications and adherence at all costs to "free-market" forces ignore the reality that certain segments of the population can't pay the jacked-up, price-gouging prices under any circumstances, and thus are exacerbating the dire conditions and creating more problems.
Aside from that, not that any of you adhere to scripture, but Proverbs 1:19 states:
"Such are the ways of all who gain profit unjustly; it takes away the life of those who obtain it!." So strictly from a moral compass, unjustly rewarding yourself at the expense of others is morally wrong, at least in biblical teachings.
What's moral about forcing someone to provide a good or service at a cost you determine?
Your pizza is $5? I'm poor. Sell me your pizza for $0.20. Do it or go to jail.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 10:19 am to OysterPoBoy
Plus good luck finding a driver who is willing to drive into a flooded area, to pump people's cars full of gasoline for a cash only sale.
Good luck on the accounting department. I'm sure a Risk Manager, CFO, CEO, Director of Safety, and anyone else in management would sign off on this just to make a quick buck.
Good luck on the accounting department. I'm sure a Risk Manager, CFO, CEO, Director of Safety, and anyone else in management would sign off on this just to make a quick buck.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 10:19 am to rocket31
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violence against the free market...who are you...ANTIFA?
Just a guy overpaying for water and punching someone for being a dick trying to steal from me.
A case of water cost $4. You want to be a dick and treat people that just lost their homes and belongings from a natural disaster like that, then you get what you deserve, which is a broken nose if you didn't like the 200% markup i paid for your goods. That's how the world works. Only the strong survive, and i'm stronger than the dipshit that is trying to sell me $100 case of water.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 10:19 am to The Torch
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I've got two 50 gallon trash barrels full of gas
quote:
The Torch
You sure that's a good idea?
Posted on 9/1/17 at 10:20 am to Pecker
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What's moral about forcing someone to provide a good or service at a cost you determine?
Your pizza is $5? I'm poor. Sell me your pizza for $0.20. Do it or go to jail.
Pecker, no one is ordering pizza in a fricking disaster area.
C'mon man.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 10:20 am to cas4t
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Plus good luck finding a driver who is willing to drive into a flooded area, to pump people's cars full of gasoline for a cash only sale.
Good luck on the accounting department. I'm sure a Risk Manager, CFO, CEO, Director of Safety, and anyone else in management would sign off on this just to make a quick buck.
Oh, profit isn't a good enough incentive? Do you have a better one?
Posted on 9/1/17 at 10:21 am to 50_Tiger
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Pecker, no one is ordering pizza in a fricking disaster area.
C'mon man.
Tell me how putting a gun to someone's head and forcing them to do work is moral.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 10:22 am to 50_Tiger
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There are indeed times where free market should be ignored.
missing here, of course, is the tiny degree of self-awareness needed to recognize that the very idea that people should never have to pay for a resource that is necessary for life and literally covers 70% of the planet - the idea is completely and patently absurd.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 10:22 am to Pecker
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Tell me how putting a gun to someone's head and forcing them to do work is moral.
Show me a situation in the last 10 large natural disasters that this has occurred?
Posted on 9/1/17 at 10:22 am to LSU alum wannabe
quote:see the free market can double the price of an item over time. That is completely different than a catastrophe happening and it jumping from 99 cents to 20 bucks.
This. If you've more than doubled your price for any item, you are a bastard.
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