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re: 70th Anniversary of the Battle of Iwo Jima
Posted on 2/19/15 at 1:17 pm to Darth_Vader
Posted on 2/19/15 at 1:17 pm to Darth_Vader
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If memory serves me right, there were more B29 crewmen saved by being able to make emergency landings at Iwo than there were Marines killed in taking the island. Kind of puts some perspective on how valuable the Marines sacrifice was.
I have read that, too. That is one of the places that was a must take.
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Posted on 2/19/15 at 1:28 pm to Spaceman Spiff
i've seen that over 2000 B-29 made emergency landings there. how accurate that is, i don't know.
Posted on 2/19/15 at 1:36 pm to geauxtigers87
Never forget
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Ralph Anthony "Iggy" Ignatowski (April 8, 1926 – March 4–7, 1945) was a United States Marine Corps private who was captured and killed by the Japanese in the Battle of Iwo Jima during World War II. The circumstances of this personally involved one of the Iwo Jima flag raisers, John Bradley.
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Ignatowski's death is also mentioned in the book Flags of Our Fathers, coauthored by the son of flag raiser John Bradley. The following are his recollections of Ignatowski's death:quote:Other eyewitness reports further indicated that Ignatowski had been tortured in the cave by the Japanese for three days, during which time they also cut out his eyes, cut off his ears, smashed in his teeth, and cut off his genitalia
"I have tried so hard to block this out. To forget it. We could choose a buddy to go in with. My buddy was a guy from Milwaukee. We were pinned down in one area. Someone elsewhere fell injured and I ran to help out, and when I came back my buddy was gone. I couldn’t figure out where he was. I could see all around, but he wasn’t there. And nobody knew where he was.
A few days later someone yelled that they’d found him. They called me over because I was a corpsman. The Japanese had pulled him underground and tortured him. His fingernails... his tongue... It was terrible. I’ve tried hard to forget all this."
Many years later, in researching my father’s life, I asked Cliff Langley, Doc’s co-corpsman, about the discovery of Iggy’s body. Langley told me it looked to him as though Ralph Ignatowski had endured just about every variety of physical cruelty imaginable.
"Both his arms were fractured," Langley said. "They just hung there, there like arms on a broken doll. He had been bayoneted repeatedly. The back of his head had been smashed in."
Posted on 2/19/15 at 1:37 pm to geauxtigers87
Several of the men who were in that reenactment of raising the flag on iwo were killed the next day in continued fighting.
Posted on 2/19/15 at 1:40 pm to geauxtigers87
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i've seen that over 2000 B-29 made emergency landings there. how accurate that is, i don't know
That seems to be reasonably accurate. I have read that somewhere around 24,000 B-29 crewmen owe their lives to Iwo.
Posted on 2/19/15 at 1:45 pm to Spaceman Spiff
My father told me B-29s were making emergency landings on Iwo Jima even before the island was completely taken. Aircrews were being saved before the battle was over.
Posted on 2/19/15 at 1:48 pm to Pavoloco83
At least two were killed on Iwo. I think the third may have been killed on Saipan or Okinawa, but possibly Iwo Jima. Ira Hayes died not long after the war. Bradley was the only one who lived a full life.
Posted on 2/19/15 at 1:48 pm to geauxtigers87
Semper Fi! 
Posted on 2/19/15 at 1:57 pm to White Roach
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My father told me B-29s were making emergency landings on Iwo Jima even before the island was completely taken. Aircrews were being saved before the battle was over.
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"Dinah Might," the first crippled B-29 to make an emergency landing on Iwo Jima during the fighting, is surrounded by Marines and Seabees on 4 March 1945.
Yessir.
This post was edited on 2/19/15 at 1:58 pm
Posted on 2/19/15 at 2:24 pm to geauxtigers87
Semper Fi!
Posted on 2/19/15 at 2:26 pm to White Roach
Yes sir. Couldn't imagine doing that kind of stuff.
Posted on 2/19/15 at 2:49 pm to Spaceman Spiff
He had crazy stories about 3-5 years after the war when they would go "sightseeing" on some of the captured islands. Among other things, he said that there were skeletons in the remnants of Japanese uniforms at machine gun emplacements in caves.
Posted on 2/19/15 at 2:50 pm to Spaceman Spiff
the island itself was fighting the Marines. volcanic sand and tank tracks do not mix very well
Posted on 2/19/15 at 2:54 pm to geauxtigers87
There's an interesting DVD set called "Iwo Jima: 36 Days of Hell". Almost all old combat footage. Fascinating, but kind of emotionally draining. When it's over, you're just kind of thinking, "frick... I'm a pussy."
Posted on 2/19/15 at 3:03 pm to geauxtigers87
My Dad's life was saved when he was drafted and the Navy recruiter took him away from the Marine recruiter because my Dad had tried to enlist in the Navy but was rejected for flat feet (then drafted a month later). Navy wanted him because he knew a lot about electronics (Grandpa was an EE). He was to serve in the Pacific theater, so as a Marine, his odds wouldn't have been good. Turns out he picked up on the radar, sonar and other ships' electronics so well that they made him an instructor and he served his tour stateside. My Uncle wasn't so lucky-was an officer in the European theatre and in the heart of some of the worst battles in Germany.
For those with Dad's, Uncle's, Grandpa's, whatever, that served in WWII, do yourself a favor and go spend a day with them at the WW II Museum while you can. Took my Dad and my two son's on Father's Day this year, and it was very powerful. The pride and admiration for our service men and women you will feel seeing it through one of their eyes will be one of the most powerful emotions you will ever feel.
For those with Dad's, Uncle's, Grandpa's, whatever, that served in WWII, do yourself a favor and go spend a day with them at the WW II Museum while you can. Took my Dad and my two son's on Father's Day this year, and it was very powerful. The pride and admiration for our service men and women you will feel seeing it through one of their eyes will be one of the most powerful emotions you will ever feel.
Posted on 2/19/15 at 3:27 pm to Icansee4miles
Wait until the Pacific wing opens up in the new building over there, going to be awesome.
Posted on 2/19/15 at 4:06 pm to Spaceman Spiff
In Japan there is a strong political movement that's gaining popularity there. This movement denies the allegations of Japanese War Crimes during WW2. This movement maintains that all accusations of Japanese committing war crimes in WW2 are false and without basis in truth.
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So, before anyone goes about repeating stories about Japanese committing war crimes during WW2, consider that many in today's Japan love Truth and will be offended that you choose to spread lies.
And bear in mind that this political movement, and their views on alleged Japanese war crimes, is gaining popularity in Japan today.
Finally, I am sure that your President Barack Obama would love for you all to remember that the USA itself and her soldiers committed many, many war crimes and crimes against humanity in its long and tarnished history.
So sorry!
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It was the mass rapes in Nanking and the brutalization of an entire populace that eventually convinced Japanese military leaders that they needed to contain the chaos. Japanese soldiers began rounding up women and forcing them to serve as sex slaves in so-called comfort stations.
This is what most historians believe. But not in Japan, where a large faction of conservatives, led by Abe, denies that the Japanese military forced women into sexual slavery. They maintain that any suggestion to the contrary is simply anti-Japanese propaganda and probably spread by China. At the furthest end of the spectrum, the minimizing turns to flat-out denial; one professor we interviewed at a top Japanese university adamantly insisted there were no killings or rapes in Nanking.
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So, before anyone goes about repeating stories about Japanese committing war crimes during WW2, consider that many in today's Japan love Truth and will be offended that you choose to spread lies.
And bear in mind that this political movement, and their views on alleged Japanese war crimes, is gaining popularity in Japan today.
Finally, I am sure that your President Barack Obama would love for you all to remember that the USA itself and her soldiers committed many, many war crimes and crimes against humanity in its long and tarnished history.
So sorry!
This post was edited on 2/19/15 at 4:11 pm
Posted on 2/19/15 at 4:14 pm to Champagne
My mom's first cousin, Harry Dale Hyde was killed on Iwo taking out a jap pillbox. He was 19 years old. He went to Catholic High and was a Baton Rouge boy.
Posted on 2/19/15 at 4:24 pm to miketiger
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My mom's first cousin, Harry Dale Hyde was killed on Iwo taking out a jap pillbox. He was 19 years old. He went to Catholic High and was a Baton Rouge boy.
Our Louisiana lost a great young man on that day.
Posted on 2/19/15 at 4:32 pm to Champagne
A total of 82 Marines were awarded the Medal of Honor during WWII -,22 were for valor on Iwo Jima. Four Navy corpsmen also received the MOH for their actions on Iwo Jima, along with one badass LT(jg) on an LCI.
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