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re: 70 Years Ago today: US Brig Gen McAuliffe Said to the Germans "NUTS!"

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Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 1:31 pm to
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Never trust zee Germans.


Good point. And while Panzer Brigade 150 didn't achieve it's objectives of seizing key bridges, what they did do was create a lot of confusion and suspicion behind the American lines. But on the other hand, those from Panzer Brigade 150 captured wearing American uniforms were legally executed as spies by the Americans....


Posted by Amazing Moves
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 1:32 pm to
Why would anyone down vote that?
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 1:33 pm to
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Why would anyone down vote that?


Because they're miserable, petty dicks with nothing better in their life than to be a miserable, petty dick on a message board.
Posted by OhFace55
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 2:01 pm to
yea flying a fixed landing gear transport plane and evading one of the most feared fighter planes in ww2 is a pretty impressive feat.
Posted by jimbeam
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 2:03 pm to
I just rewatched it the other day

I really don't get what these threads turn into, however. Basically 4 guys just telling each other historical facts that they already know
This post was edited on 12/22/14 at 2:06 pm
Posted by soccerfüt
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 2:05 pm to
Was bedeutet "Nuts" zu verstehen?

How the German commander asked the translator what the response "Nuts" meant.
Posted by AlaTiger
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 2:12 pm to
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Excuse the frick out of me for sharing a personal connection I have through my grandfather to the Battle of the Bulge in my own fricking thread.


I have no idea why people are downvoting you. It is a cool story. Thanks for sharing it! I love hearing the personal connections that people have to major moments in history.

Anyone downvoting you is probably just messing with you. I have no clue as to why they would do it.

Great post. Thanks for the reminder and for the personal story! Very cool.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 2:12 pm to
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I really don't get what these threads turn into, however. Basically 4 guys just telling each other historical facts that they already know



I certainly pick up a few things from these threads to dig up more information.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 2:16 pm to
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I certainly pick up a few things from these threads to dig up more information.


Same here. i think these threads are a cool way to discuss history topics a lot of us find interesting. I for one usually come away having learned at least something by others sharing their perspectives.
Posted by AlaTiger
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 2:17 pm to
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I downvoted BECAUSE of that...You made the thread about you...


No he didn't. This is stupid. He made the thread about his GRANDFATHER who led an armored column into Bastogne with Patton - which what the thread is about.

This is ludicrous. Do you know what "about you" means? He referenced someone else - not him.
Posted by White Roach
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 2:25 pm to
OhFace and/or Terd:

What's the story on the near shoot down of Patton's plane by the RAF? I haven't heard about that before.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 2:34 pm to
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OhFace and/or Terd:

What's the story on the near shoot down of Patton's plane by the RAF? I haven't heard about that before.



There's not a lot of information out there on it. All I've found is that his Piper Cub...



Was attacked by a group of Spitfires....

LINK

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The other “accident,” just a few weeks before, on April 10, 1945, is even more suspicious. Patton was visiting units in his light observation plane when four Polish Spitfires supposedly mistook his tiny aircraft for a Nazi fighter and attacked it. While three circled and acted almost as lookouts, the fourth Spitfire made repeated attacks. If not for the ground hugging and evasion skills of Patton’s pilot, the general surely would have been killed. As it was, the attacking Spitfire couldn’t pull up after one of its steep diving attacks and crashed. The Russians by that time controlled Poland. Patton was livid, and an aide accompanying him in the plane vowed to find out what happened. But to this day, there is scant information about the attack beyond what both wrote in their diaries.


I guess it's "possible" they mistook his aircraft for a similar German aircraft, the Fleischer Storch...

This post was edited on 12/22/14 at 2:37 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 2:47 pm to
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I have no idea why people are downvoting you.


Because there are some miserable fricks here who are cynical and negative as hell.
Posted by Godfather1
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 3:06 pm to
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Looks like it might be time for another Band of Brothers rewatch.


1949's "Battleground" is another excellent account of Bastogne.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 3:08 pm to
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1949's "Battleground" is another excellent account of Bastogne.



"Puts on list."
Posted by OhFace55
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 3:29 pm to
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What's the story on the near shoot down of Patton's plane by the RAF? I haven't heard about that before.



After he was promoted to four star general he was flying to american occupied portuon of germany i believe. Came face to face with a RAF spitfire that had polish markings on it. The spitfire chased them down and ended up getting out manuevered by patton's pilot. Records showed that the closest polish spitfire base was out of range from where the attack happened. It also showed that all polish fighter pilots were accounted for. There was a couple hundred spitfires that were donated to russia that some believe accounted for this attack.
Posted by White Roach
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 3:31 pm to
Thanks, that's an "interesting" article...

Patton was pretty vocal in his opinion that the Russians were a threat to the U.S. and it's interests. I've previously heard some of the assassination plot rumors, but not about the Spitfire attack. Actual assassination attempt or fog of war... Who knows?

There was a made for TV movie in the mid-70s called Brass Target. George Kennedy played the role of Patton.

(SPOILER ALERT for any Movie Board posters who've stumbled into this thread!)

I don't remember the entire plot line, but it involved Nazi gold (that was not already stolen by Kelly's Heros) and an assassin with bullet made of wood or wax or something that wasn't lead (like John Malkovich in In The Line of Fire). Staged car accident, expert rifle shot to cervical vertebrae, untraceable bullet disintegrates, and America's greatest wartime general is dead (a week or ten days later).

After seeing the movie, I told my father that I had no idea Patton had been assassinated. His response was (approximately), "That's because he wasn't. He broke his neck in a car accident."

Now I don't know who to believe!
Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 3:37 pm to
The poor Poles get blamed for everything! Germans in Polish uniforms attacked German border crossings to justify the German invasion of Poland and now Russians in British planes with Polish markings are trying to kill Patton. I wonder if those attack boats in the Gulf of Tonkin had Polish markings too?!?

Interesting story, thanks for the details!
Posted by elprez00
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Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 3:42 pm to
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What sucks is that the guy starts an interesting thread, had some great responses (like the Toye quote and the link to the Army Times article), and it gets ruined before its off page one.


This. And when it comes to history/military threads, Darth is typically on point. I look forward to his take in these threads.

Some people just love to stir shite. I mean, damn.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 4:03 pm to
Don't sweat it. Come join us in the history trivia thread.
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