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4 percent of military sexual assault claims result in conviction

Posted on 3/28/17 at 6:53 pm
Posted by TennesseeFan25
Honolulu
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Posted on 3/28/17 at 6:53 pm
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The military received more than 6,000 reports of sexual assaults last year, but only a small fraction, about 250, led to a court-martial and conviction for a related crime, according to a new Pentagon report.


In a course today that went into this. Also stated for sexual assault cases that go to trial there is an 80% acquittal rate. That's absolutely astonishing, especially with the emphasis placed on sexual assault prevention within the military, or at least the lip service to it.

Article is a year old wanted to give some background to the point mentioned though
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 3/28/17 at 6:54 pm to
Is it because there isn't enough evidence?

Kind of like 2 people getting drunk and having sex then one claiming rape after the fact despite all evidence to the contrary?
Posted by cubsfan5150
Member since Nov 2007
15776 posts
Posted on 3/28/17 at 6:55 pm to
Well, as you know, we don't send every infraction to a court martial.

Also, what are the civilian stats for comparison?
Posted by TennesseeFan25
Honolulu
Member since May 2016
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Posted on 3/28/17 at 6:55 pm to
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Is it because there isn't enough evidence?

Kind of like 2 people getting drunk and having sex then one claiming rape after the fact despite all evidence to the contrary?




For it to be that high there has to be a multitude of reasons, the ones that go to trial though would assumingly have enough evidence to get to that point, and still being acquitted at 80% was amazing
Posted by upgrayedd
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Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 3/28/17 at 6:56 pm to
quote:


In a course today that went into this. Also stated for sexual assault cases that go to trial there is an 80% acquittal rate. That's absolutely astonishing, especially with the emphasis placed on sexual assault prevention within the military, or at least the lip service to it.

Article is a year old wanted to give some background to the point mentioned though


1. How many of these "reported assaults" are legit?

2. You should ask why the Military Justice System is so shitty if true.
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 3/28/17 at 6:57 pm to
Kind of the exact opposite version of how prison commitees have 100% conviction rates for crimes commited while locked up
Posted by TennesseeFan25
Honolulu
Member since May 2016
8391 posts
Posted on 3/28/17 at 6:59 pm to
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1. How many of these "reported assaults" are legit?



There are absolutely fake reports and a myriad of other situations, even if we generously assume that is 40% of all claims, which would seem outrageously high, that leaves a lot unaccounted
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 3/28/17 at 7:00 pm to
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There are absolutely fake reports and a myriad of other situations, even if we generously assume that is 40% of all claims, which would seem outrageously high, that leaves a lot unaccounted


Which is why #2 is important.
Posted by The Blind Side
Member since Aug 2009
212 posts
Posted on 3/28/17 at 7:01 pm to
Re-read first post. Disregard.
This post was edited on 3/28/17 at 7:03 pm
Posted by prince of fools
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 3/28/17 at 7:05 pm to
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It's because over 90% end in Non-Judicial punishment.


Ding Ding.

Also sexual assault can go "Restricted" or "Unrestricted"

If a victim decides to make their report "restricted", only the people that need to know hear about it. They get access to all of the support that they need, medical, psychological, they can even transfer to a different unit.

Only unrestricted reports result in an accusation.
Posted by PrivatePublic
Member since Nov 2012
17848 posts
Posted on 3/28/17 at 7:06 pm to
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Also stated for sexual assault cases that go to trial there is an 80% acquittal rate


Good.

We all know most of those "sexual assaults" are post-sex guilt. Glad to see the system is not simply taking the woman's word over the man's.

As yet at any rate.
Posted by TennesseeFan25
Honolulu
Member since May 2016
8391 posts
Posted on 3/28/17 at 7:11 pm to
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Good.

We all know most of those "sexual assaults" are post-sex guilt. Glad to see the system is not simply taking the woman's word over the man's.

As yet at any rate.



Eh, sorry when she wised up she was disgusted with herself bro, think it's a stretch to say that the majority are the situation you mentioned
Posted by TennesseeFan25
Honolulu
Member since May 2016
8391 posts
Posted on 3/28/17 at 7:12 pm to
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Also sexual assault can go "Restricted" or "Unrestricted"

If a victim decides to make their report "restricted", only the people that need to know hear about it. They get access to all of the support that they need, medical, psychological, they can even transfer to a different unit.

Only unrestricted reports result in an accusation.



80% acquittal rate.
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
68463 posts
Posted on 3/28/17 at 7:15 pm to
some of the claims are bullshite
for instance when i was deployed i had been informed by my platoon sgt that one of the soldiers back home from our unit said a girl look really nice.

she told her platoon sergeant to tell the guy to not talk to her and instead had to file a sharp complaint.
Posted by SundayFunday
Member since Sep 2011
9299 posts
Posted on 3/28/17 at 7:19 pm to
quote:

That's absolutely astonishing, especially with the emphasis placed on sexual assault prevention within the military, or at least the lip service to it.





Maybe, just maybe, it takes more than one persons word to completely destroy a persons life and throw them in military prison
Posted by PaperPaintball92
Fly Navy
Member since Aug 2010
5297 posts
Posted on 3/28/17 at 7:25 pm to
Some women don't realize the damage they do when they make false sexual assault claims. I know it's a very small portion that are "SAPR Sally" cases, but they cause so many real sexual assault cases to be taken lightly.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
64597 posts
Posted on 3/28/17 at 7:30 pm to
In so damn glad we didn't have females below brigade level back in my day.
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