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re: 12 yo Tournament Baseball practice
Posted on 3/23/15 at 10:29 am to Topwater Trout
Posted on 3/23/15 at 10:29 am to Topwater Trout
I'll just put THIS here.
Posted on 3/23/15 at 1:04 pm to Burlee
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Q: Your book recommends that kids take three months off from a given sport per year. How did you decide on that timeframe?
A: Three or four months is what we recommend, but they need at least two. Fatigue can take the form of event fatigue, which might mean too many pitches in a baseball game; it could mean seasonal fatigue, too many innings in a season; or it could be year-round fatigue, which means year-round baseball. Our research program at ASMI showed that a kid participating in youth baseball with fatigue in any of those three categories is 36 times more likely to injure his throwing shoulder or throwing elbow or both. If that doesn't get the parents' and grandparents' and coaches' attention, nothing will.
Posted on 3/24/15 at 6:59 am to WilsonPickett
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Don't swing a -3 bat at 12?
I'm suggesting using -3 to be ready for Jr HS / Middle School Ball.
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The next step after 50/70 is 54/80 so you're not going straight to 60/90.
Our Jr HS / Middle School program is 60/90 baseball.
Posted on 3/24/15 at 7:06 am to tigerjjs
Should be in concurrence with rules their school district follows for similar sports while school is in session.
I get 1.5 hours p/day - 3 days per week while school is in session. I think public schools get 2 hours p/day - 3 days per week.
I get 1.5 hours p/day - 3 days per week while school is in session. I think public schools get 2 hours p/day - 3 days per week.
Posted on 3/24/15 at 7:10 am to FavoriteAnon
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your post is absolute blasphemy. I understand your logic about the kids arms becoming fatigued over the course of a year, but any responsible parent will make sure there kid is feeling fine before playing a game. I totally understand how working out your arm all year long makes your arm weaker than a kid playing video games for 9 months out of the year, NOT. Travel team players don't know the fundamentals of baseball? LOL come on man, you can't be serious. I have come to the conclusion that your kid is bad at sports and didn't get asked to be on the team.
Agreed...that tool has no damn clue. Travel ball is ALL about fundamentals and teaching the game to the kids despite what people read. And good coaches will not overuse a kid's arm to win a plastic trophy.
Posted on 3/24/15 at 7:10 am to tgrbaitn08
IMO, Curve balls are not the sole reason kids destroy their arms. If a kid has sound mechanics and has been properly trained there is nothing wrong with throwing curve balls, just keep it to a minimum and not use it as an "out" pitch.
Not properly stretching, poor mechanics being overworked and little rest between games because a coach wants to win are the main culprits imo.
Not properly stretching, poor mechanics being overworked and little rest between games because a coach wants to win are the main culprits imo.
Posted on 3/24/15 at 7:17 am to partsman103
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IMO, Curve balls are not the sole reason kids destroy their arms. If a kid has sound mechanics and has been properly trained there is nothing wrong with throwing curve balls, just keep it to a minimum and not use it as an "out" pitch. Not properly stretching, poor mechanics being overworked and little rest between games because a coach wants to win are the main culprits imo.
Pitching coach in travel ball for years 12-13 year olds.
Will NOT teach and junk. I tell coaches if they are, then don't ask for my help.
A good parent/coach understands their arms are still developing. All of the junk balls are not only setting them up for early arm issues, but keeping them from being good pitchers. I like to see kids work on their LOCATION/CONTROL and a good CHANGE-UP. If they can develop these tools early age, they will have success.
I could rant ad nauseam, but just lending support to good post by partsman103.
Posted on 3/24/15 at 7:38 am to LSUERDOC
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Travel ball is ALL about fundamentals and teaching the game to the kids despite what people read.
This made me laugh. Travel ball is all about $.
Posted on 3/24/15 at 7:44 am to HottyToddy7
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Travel baseball is killing the game. Just a heads up. Kids have no idea how to actually play baseball when they get to the upper levels.
They will disagree with you. However, I know of 2 former coaches from the CWS who will tell you this, exactly as you said it.
Posted on 3/24/15 at 9:26 am to Kickadawgitfeelsgood
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HottyToddy7
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Travel baseball is killing the game. Just a heads up. Kids have no idea how to actually play baseball when they get to the upper levels.
True to an extent. Really depends on who is Coaching and very important for parents to do their homework before signing up with a team.
Kids who play competitive baseball vs REC players are far more advanced mentally and physically based on my 16yrs of experience as a parent who's kids played travel baseball...and continue to play...only now we're beginning the "showcase" season this April once school ball ends.
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They will disagree with you. However, I know of 2 former coaches from the CWS who will tell you this, exactly as you said it.
College coaches all have opinions that differ. I know college coaches who have coached AND won the CWS (shameless plug: have a nephew who is a freshman pitcher at Vandy and another who is a Senior at D2 school in Al.) as well as MLB coaches who all say playing against higher competition helps them grow in the game. But more importantly coaching is the key. So yes, some are in it for the money and the trophies to stroke their egos, others are in it to help kids improve and do not worry about wins and loses.
Again, very important that parents do their homework when deciding on a travel team to join.
Posted on 3/24/15 at 9:41 am to LSUERDOC
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Travel ball is ALL about fundamentals and teaching the game to the kids despite what people read.
for the kids, parents and coaches it is.....
But in reality it's ALL about the money
Posted on 3/24/15 at 9:54 am to CoachDon
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I like to see kids work on their LOCATION/CONTROL and a good CHANGE-UP. If they can develop these tools early age, they will have success.
I definitely agree with this. I was a pitcher all the way through high school, but I only threw fastballs and change-ups until I was 15. shite, I didn't even have much velocity on my fastball, but my location and control was fantastic, which a lot of "baseball gurus" underrate.
This post was edited on 3/24/15 at 9:55 am
Posted on 5/29/15 at 9:31 pm to WilsonPickett
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The next step after 50/70 is 54/80 so you're not going straight to 60/90
It's not for us. Once in 7th grade and playing School Baseball...we play 60-90 and have to use -3 bat.
Posted on 5/29/15 at 9:52 pm to BayouBuster
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ur 10 yo travel team practices twice a week. We have a 11/2 hour team practice to work on cut offs, bunt coverage, taking grounders, and tracking fly balls. Our second practice is 1 hour and we split the kids in half and concentrate on pitching mechanics, hitting and bunting. We will find out next week if it works.
What team and divison is he playing ?
Posted on 5/29/15 at 10:01 pm to tigerjjs
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How often and for how long should these teams be practicing? Is 3 times a week too much? New to this and would like some insight.
We're a U10 AAA team. We play every weekend between March and mid July as
well as 3 weekends during the fall.
During peak season we practice 4 days a week.
Monday...off
Tuesday...situations/conditioning
Wednesday...Batting practiceand Bullpin
Thursday....situations or scrimmage
Friday....short batting practice
Saturday/Sunday...Play Ball
ETA: just realized someone bumped an old thread
This post was edited on 5/29/15 at 10:04 pm
Posted on 5/29/15 at 10:12 pm to tgrbaitn08
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Monday...off
Tuesday...situations/conditioning
Wednesday...Batting practiceand Bullpin
Thursday....situations or scrimmage
Friday....short batting practice
Saturday/Sunday...Play Ball
Holy shite. Grown men and women don't train this much to run marathons.
Posted on 5/29/15 at 10:16 pm to East Coast Band
that's only 1.5 hours a day
Obviously you've never trained for a marathon.
Obviously you've never trained for a marathon.
Posted on 5/29/15 at 10:21 pm to tgrbaitn08
Obviously you don't know me. I've run several marathons and halfs.
And no, I don't train this much. Even during the most intense training weeks, where ill run up to 40 miles a week, I still take two days a week off.
And no, I don't train this much. Even during the most intense training weeks, where ill run up to 40 miles a week, I still take two days a week off.
Posted on 5/29/15 at 10:24 pm to East Coast Band
So tell me then, what should thier practice schedule be?
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