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Why don't we talk about Safety as a need more?
Posted on 4/26/24 at 8:23 am
Posted on 4/26/24 at 8:23 am
We are VERY thin there.
We only really have:
Tyrann (old), Howden and Abram.
Both Howden an Abram had good moments last year, but I think you have to be a little nervous going into the season with only those 3. They could use more young talent there for sure.
We only really have:
Tyrann (old), Howden and Abram.
Both Howden an Abram had good moments last year, but I think you have to be a little nervous going into the season with only those 3. They could use more young talent there for sure.
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Posted on 4/26/24 at 8:25 am to Fun Bunch
I've felt we draft safety in 2nd round for a while.
Posted on 4/26/24 at 8:32 am to Fun Bunch
Cooper DeJean would be a nice get to replace Mathieu, but he'll be long gone before pick 45.
Posted on 4/26/24 at 8:36 am to Fun Bunch
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Why don't we talk about Safety as a need more?
For whatever reason, the position has been devalued. We saw that with the free agent market this year. A ton of the better and most expensive ones were cut and haven't re-signed. I don't know why, but the market for safeties took a huge nose-dive.
You've obviously got to have a couple, and I bet we draft at least one with one of those 4 5th rounders (or use 2 of them to move up into the 4th round for one). But it seems like most teams this year feel like they can always just sign a vet on the cheap after the draft if it doesn't fall to where they're picking and one's not BPA.
Posted on 4/26/24 at 8:38 am to Hot Carl
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For whatever reason, the position has been devalued. We saw that with the free agent market this year. A ton of the better and most expensive ones were cut and haven't re-signed. I don't know why, but the market for safeties took a huge nose-dive.
Teams are playing more CBs on the field at the same time, and there are guys who may have been Safeties 10 years ago that are now considered LBers
Posted on 4/26/24 at 8:39 am to fifthdeadlyvenom
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Cooper DeJean would be a nice get to replace Mathieu
He fills a lot of needs
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but he'll be long gone before pick 45.
most likely, but he fell this far
Posted on 4/26/24 at 8:39 am to Fun Bunch
Saints are thin everywhere.
What position is busting with talent?
What position is busting with talent?
Posted on 4/26/24 at 8:40 am to Hot Carl
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For whatever reason, the position has been devalued.
So much 2-high looks mean the position is simplified somewhat. Lots of guys can play back in a 2-high system.
The on the line SS guys are now LBs or not in the league, for the most part
Posted on 4/26/24 at 8:52 am to blueboxer1119
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Saints are thin everywhere.
Touche
Posted on 4/26/24 at 9:01 am to Fun Bunch
I have been saying they need to draft safety early.
I thought they should've went after poyer in free agency.
I thought they should've went after poyer in free agency.
Posted on 4/26/24 at 9:06 am to Fun Bunch
I want the Air Force safety late in the draft
Posted on 4/26/24 at 9:10 am to SlowFlowPro
Yea Cooper DeJean is the ideal RD2 pick after botching RD1
Posted on 4/26/24 at 9:12 am to SlowFlowPro
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most likely, but he fell this far
I think PFF had him as the #8 guy on their big board. Maybe teams aren't sure if he's a corner or safety and didn't want to pull the trigger. I think that has a lot of value, though. Or maybe they just assume he's a safety and his value has dropped along with the position. There's probably a "white CB" stigma at play somewhere too, even if subconscious.
Are there any players on the board that you would swap 2nds and give next year's 3rd to go up and get? I'm almost convinced we're trading Latt and will have another team's 2nd and/or 3rd from next year. But even if we don't, do you see value with anybody still hanging around? (just a 3rd, taking next year's 2nd off the table. Or maybe next year's 4th if it's just a few spots).
Posted on 4/26/24 at 9:12 am to Zzyzx
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after botching RD1
Posted on 4/26/24 at 9:14 am to Fun Bunch
We have needs at almost every single position. Add it to the list
Posted on 4/26/24 at 9:16 am to Hot Carl
For whatever reason, CBs went late last night. I thought Mitchell was a premier talent at CB, too. Didn't make sense.
And yeah there are 2 issues with DeJean, one which may take him off our board. He only really has zone film and likely isn't a boundary CB. We do need a NB, so the boundary stuff doesn't matter, but we run primarily man. However, that's less of an issue at NB and all the choice routes, which make NB much more zone-y
And yeah there are 2 issues with DeJean, one which may take him off our board. He only really has zone film and likely isn't a boundary CB. We do need a NB, so the boundary stuff doesn't matter, but we run primarily man. However, that's less of an issue at NB and all the choice routes, which make NB much more zone-y
Posted on 4/26/24 at 9:23 am to Hot Carl
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Are there any players on the board that you would swap 2nds and give next year's 3rd to go up and get? I'm almost convinced we're trading Latt and will have another team's 2nd and/or 3rd from next year. But even if we don't, do you see value with anybody still hanging around? (just a 3rd, taking next year's 2nd off the table. Or maybe next year's 4th if it's just a few spots).
Too many holes and poor cap management should keep this team from mortgaging future picks to slightly improve their current pick.
Posted on 4/26/24 at 9:33 am to SlowFlowPro
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He only really has zone film and likely isn't a boundary CB.
We don’t need a boundary corner. He will play S or Nickel for us. I also like Tyler Nubin as that center field ball hawking Free Safety
Posted on 4/26/24 at 9:39 am to Fun Bunch
Everything is a need. Which is funny they are still drafting in a win now mode
Posted on 4/26/24 at 9:47 am to Lester Earl
Same reason they should've traded back.
Especially with how the first round went.
Any Intel on if they tried to trade back?
The draft never lines up like that. After pick 45 it's going to be a long wait till all those 5th round comp picks.
Especially with how the first round went.
Any Intel on if they tried to trade back?
The draft never lines up like that. After pick 45 it's going to be a long wait till all those 5th round comp picks.
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