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re: Why do you think the Saints running game so terrible?
Posted on 10/19/13 at 3:21 pm to fightingtigers98
Posted on 10/19/13 at 3:21 pm to fightingtigers98
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Why do you think the Saints running game so terrible?
1) New blocking scheme by new OL coach.
2) Too much predictability due to personnel groups when runs are coming
3) Evans was hurt early and caused lack of faith in run game
4) No elite traditional backs to feed the rock and make huge plays.
Now, I think Evans is healthy and the line is starting to improve. I believe Payton learned from the Pats game how not running the ball against a weak dline until the second half was dumb, and the Saints do need a running game to be a complete team.
Also, the bye week will help with coaching adjustments (self-scouting) to eliminate predictability and find what works best to get the run game going.
Finally, if Robinson proves he can protect the ball, he can have a Chris Ivory-like affect. He is actually a much more complete back than Ivory, so he could really earn a lot of playing time (if Payton goes back to Ingram, all bets are off).
Posted on 10/19/13 at 3:21 pm to LasVegasBandit
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In fact the only season that our running percentage approached our passing percentage is the season that we won the Super Bowl.
we were 4th in ypc in 2011 and 6th in yards. We were the best offense ever in 2011
This post was edited on 10/19/13 at 3:23 pm
Posted on 10/19/13 at 3:23 pm to Hoodoo Man
Saying he has no discipline is a figure of speech.. Like saying zach Randolph has no hops.
Of course Z-Bo can jump 6 inches or so and of course Sean Payton is capable of some discipline, but I suppose if you want to take it literally and look like an a-hole that's your prerogative.
Of course Z-Bo can jump 6 inches or so and of course Sean Payton is capable of some discipline, but I suppose if you want to take it literally and look like an a-hole that's your prerogative.
This post was edited on 10/19/13 at 3:26 pm
Posted on 10/19/13 at 3:23 pm to TigerBait1127
Great. That's not what I was talking about. I was talking bout run/pass ratio.
Posted on 10/19/13 at 3:25 pm to LasVegasBandit
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Great. That's not what I was talking about. I was talking bout run/pass ratio.
who cares? Best offense in NFL history and ran the ball enough to be in the top 10
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2011 playoffs as well
we ran 36x for 167 yards against Detroit in the 2011 playoffs...
Fell behind early against SF and they were the best at stopping the run
This post was edited on 10/19/13 at 3:27 pm
Posted on 10/19/13 at 3:26 pm to TigerBait1127
And we won. And then in San Fran.....
Posted on 10/19/13 at 3:27 pm to LasVegasBandit
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And we won. And then in San Fran.....
you mean a team that is the best at shutting down the run shut down the run?
We fell behind early and played from behind.
Posted on 10/19/13 at 3:28 pm to LasVegasBandit
Not to mention, PT got knocked the frick out early.
Posted on 10/19/13 at 3:30 pm to Hoodoo Man
apparently teams run more with a lead. Who fricking knew
Posted on 10/19/13 at 3:31 pm to TigerBait1127
If we run the ball in Chicago in NFC championship game we win even though we fall behind early. ditto for last week in New England.
Two of Peyton's worst games as play caller.
Two of Peyton's worst games as play caller.
This post was edited on 10/19/13 at 3:32 pm
Posted on 10/19/13 at 3:32 pm to TigerBait1127
quote:Now you're just making excuses for coaches without discipline.
apparently teams run more with a lead. Who fricking knew
Posted on 10/19/13 at 3:32 pm to Hoodoo Man
The title of this thread itself is hyperbolic and yet you're calling me out being hyperbolic on a throwaway statement?
Obviously any sane person knows that Sean Payton is one of the top three coaches in all of football today. I'm just frustrated he was so horrible last week.
Obviously any sane person knows that Sean Payton is one of the top three coaches in all of football today. I'm just frustrated he was so horrible last week.
This post was edited on 10/19/13 at 3:35 pm
Posted on 10/19/13 at 3:33 pm to LasVegasBandit
If you'll notice, I called out the OP, as well.
Posted on 10/19/13 at 3:37 pm to Hoodoo Man
Of course, the OP is like 15.
Posted on 10/19/13 at 3:38 pm to LasVegasBandit
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ditto for last week in New England.
we had the lead against the Patriots and couldn't get a 1st down with 5 of the last 6 offensive plays being runs. I agree we should have ran the ball more, but we still had the lead at the end and couldn't get a first down
Posted on 10/19/13 at 3:38 pm to fightingtigers98
the screen game should count for the running the game IMO the way the saints enhance and use it
Posted on 10/19/13 at 3:54 pm to fightingtigers98
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agreed, but you would think with
Grubbs
DLP
Evans
we would be more successful.
One major thing. Kromer. He is one the best O line coaches in the NFL and runs a different blocking scheme. New coach, new scheme they spent time learning.
Posted on 10/19/13 at 4:19 pm to fightingtigers98
New Oline coach is the root of the problem.
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