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Where are the Loomis threads?

Posted on 11/24/14 at 11:42 pm
Posted by LSUlefty
Youngsville, LA
Member since Dec 2007
26441 posts
Posted on 11/24/14 at 11:42 pm
Might as well add him to the mix.
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48269 posts
Posted on 11/24/14 at 11:48 pm to
Everybody around here seems to love Loomis.

I questioned his abilities some time ago and was roundly attacked.

He's a bean-counter, not a football guy. You need a football guy as your GM.
Posted by TheChiefHasArrived
Member since Dec 2011
685 posts
Posted on 11/24/14 at 11:53 pm to
Has he really hit on a first round pick as GM? Ever? 2006 was incredible but hasn't done much since.
Posted by Zoombop
Westbank
Member since Feb 2013
987 posts
Posted on 11/25/14 at 12:00 am to
We only draft high character guys.

Last time I checked, character isn't what smacks other teams in the mouth on 3rd and 12.

We need more bad boys on this team.
Posted by GoIrish02
Member since Mar 2012
1390 posts
Posted on 11/25/14 at 12:04 am to
quote:


We need more bad boys on this team.



Who know how to tackle, instead of doing commercials for 5 minute oil change.

Sorry for the thread hijack, just pissed at Vaccaro. Even the bad boys get soft under this regime.
This post was edited on 11/25/14 at 12:05 am
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278171 posts
Posted on 11/25/14 at 12:06 am to
Loomis is terrible.

He's not even great at the money shite. That's biting us in the arse because you can only put shite off so many times. You cant mask a lack of talent. The lack of solid contributors we draft would have any other GM fired. Like years ago.
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48269 posts
Posted on 11/25/14 at 12:11 am to
Ownership is in Eternal Love with Loomis, so, this franchise is stuck with him.

A bean-counter is our fricking GM and not a football guy!! What the frick is that shite?
Posted by Zoombop
Westbank
Member since Feb 2013
987 posts
Posted on 11/25/14 at 12:17 am to
We could have kept our 27th pick and taken a defensive player there and drafted John Brown in the 3rd round (Arizona used that pick on him). It won't be popular, but Brown has been more explosive than Cooks this season. Plus we could have taken Borland in the 2nd instead of a massive project (and looking like a bust) Stan Jean-Baptiste.

Just saying.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 11/25/14 at 12:22 am to
quote:

He's not even great at the money shite. That's biting us in the arse because you can only put shite off so many times. You cant mask a lack of talent. The lack of solid contributors we draft would have any other GM fired. Like years ago.



You have no idea what you are talking about here. Last year we were in our cap hell. We went out and resigned Graham while also getting one of the most sought after defensive FAs in the NFL in Byrd. We retained Bush too.

Would you have cut Jahri Evans going into this season? We have very manageable contracts at the positions of weakness. Those positions are also very cheap to replace and easy to draft (outside of a #2 corner)

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The lack of solid contributors we draft would have any other GM fired. Like years ago.


We haven't done well in the 1st, but we've drafted ELITE talent later on. I would love to see some kind of statistical breakdown, but we've found some incredible value despite striking out on our earlier picks.

We've got some elite talent in this group with Jahri (4), Strief (7), Colston (7), Bushrod (4), PT (undrafted FA), Porter (2), Nicks (5), Morstead (5), Graham (3), Jordan (1), Hicks (3), Armstead (3), Jenkins (3), and Stills (5)
This post was edited on 11/25/14 at 12:33 am
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 11/25/14 at 12:26 am to
quote:

We could have kept our 27th pick and taken a defensive player there


I'd rather let Payton spend our draft picks on offensive players. We haven't shown the ability to draft defensive players. We usually do pretty well in FA there.

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drafted John Brown in the 3rd round (Arizona used that pick on him). It won't be popular, but Brown has been more explosive than Cooks this season.


Well since he's been more explosive than Cooks this season, he was clearly the better draft pick. Cooks was getting behind defenses pretty regularly once we changed his role up. Cooks fits a variety of roles for us.

The issue I have is taking a project in the 2nd round at the corner position. In our post 2013 position, we should have been looking for immediate contributors. Hell, I wouldn't have been opposed to going WR, WR in the 1st 2 rounds.

Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
16314 posts
Posted on 11/25/14 at 12:38 am to
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Has he really hit on a first round pick as GM? Ever? 2006 was incredible but hasn't done much since.



Will Smith had a great career
Jammal Brown played well while he was here
Reggie was good
Cam Jordan
Ingram appears to have turned a corner
Vaccaro is having a bad year but looked promising last year
still early to tell about Cooks, but was looking to start making a huge impact
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
16314 posts
Posted on 11/25/14 at 12:41 am to
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He's a bean-counter, not a football guy. You need a football guy as your GM.


You do realize that this is by design. The team wants a "bean-counter" in charge of the salaries and rely on the coaches & scouting department to be in charge of the players.
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
71505 posts
Posted on 11/25/14 at 12:50 am to
quote:

Ingram appears to have turned a corner

Wish he could've turned the corner into the end zone on that easy TD he fricked up tonight.
Posted by Walking the Earth
Member since Feb 2013
17260 posts
Posted on 11/25/14 at 12:54 am to
quote:

Wish he could've turned the corner into the end zone on that easy TD he fricked up tonight.


That looked so bad it made me wonder if he put some action on the game.

He really, really, really, really was trying hard NOT to get into that end zone. Brees' expression that they flipped to was priceless.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 11/25/14 at 12:56 am to
quote:

Wish he could've turned the corner into the end zone on that easy TD he fricked up tonight.



Yep, Reggie strolls in right there. You don't leave your feet unless you know you're getting over your oline.

We shouldn't be running behind our interior line either way, especially with Goodwin in. If you're gonna run it, you do it behind Armstead
This post was edited on 11/25/14 at 12:57 am
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48269 posts
Posted on 11/25/14 at 7:29 am to
quote:

You do realize that this is by design. The team wants a "bean-counter" in charge of the salaries and rely on the coaches & scouting department to be in charge of the players.



I question the merits of the design. Either the design is bad or this franchise doesn't know how to execute the design.

I say you need a football guy GM in charge with a bean-counter in second chair.

Go get a football guy and rebuild.
Posted by LSUlefty
Youngsville, LA
Member since Dec 2007
26441 posts
Posted on 11/25/14 at 8:02 am to
He needs to be accountable
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
77346 posts
Posted on 11/25/14 at 8:17 am to
Fire loomis, hire ozzie newsome. I wish.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
16314 posts
Posted on 11/25/14 at 10:33 am to
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I say you need a football guy GM in charge with a bean-counter in second chair.


Not disagreeing with you, but I doubt they do that as long as SP is there. Bc then he would have someone that may know more than him challenge his personnel decisions.
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