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WBRZ-Footage shows crash that led to Will Smith's death (Hayes hitting Smith)

Posted on 4/19/16 at 9:01 am
Posted by whodatdude
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Posted on 4/19/16 at 9:01 am
Posted by Ryne Sandberg
Team Am Mart
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Posted on 4/19/16 at 9:05 am to
BOOM
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 4/19/16 at 9:06 am to
We had that video over the weekend. Why is there a boom? It was already a fact the vehicles hit each other
This post was edited on 4/19/16 at 9:07 am
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 4/19/16 at 9:46 am to
I hadn't seen this video until now. I think you can tell a few things from the video.

The hit was not violent. But, it looks intentional based on the delay before between Smith applying the brakes and Hayes.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
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Posted on 4/19/16 at 9:47 am to
Check the other threads, we don't need a new thread every time something new happens (especially when the news is almost a week old)
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 4/19/16 at 9:48 am to
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The hit was not violent.


I'd really love to now how you can come to that conclusion since the hit is basically in a completely dark area of the screen and incredibly low resolution.

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But, it looks intentional based on the delay before between Smith applying the brakes and Hayes.



This is agree with to a point. Although, keep in mind that they did slow the video down just before the impact, so it may not be as bad as it seems in the video.

ETA: Looks to be roughly 3 seconds real time, that's a pretty delayed reaction.
This post was edited on 4/19/16 at 9:51 am
Posted by ScumpyWumpy
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Posted on 4/19/16 at 9:53 am to
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Posted by whodatdude
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Posted on 4/19/16 at 10:06 am to
Sorry. I guess I should have sorted through a 25 page thread to see if someone might have posted the video...
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 4/19/16 at 10:06 am to
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Holy shite. What a funny and original response. You're a regular Dane Cook.
Posted by whodatdude
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 4/19/16 at 10:07 am to
So. Damn. Witty.

You really got me there, bud. I guess I should go hide in a corner now, so as to not draw your scorn any further.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 4/19/16 at 10:36 am to
One thing from that vid that I thought was interesting is how fricking fast Hayes pops out of that Hummer after hitting Smith.

ETA: you can also see the Mercedes being propelled forward quite a bit by the impact.
This post was edited on 4/19/16 at 10:40 am
Posted by beauchristopher
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Posted on 4/19/16 at 10:51 am to
looks deliberate and yeah he was after the driver of that car (Smith). he got out extremely fast. just not a good idea to take the law into your own hands.
This post was edited on 4/19/16 at 10:52 am
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 4/19/16 at 11:06 am to
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I'd really love to now how you can come to that conclusion


...by watching the video.

The term "violent" is relative. I'm not going to argue your definition vs. mine. What I'm saying is that, IMO, on a scale of 1-10 of rear end collisions, this would be a 3. The original accident was a 1.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 4/19/16 at 11:11 am to
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by watching the video.

Thew video where you can't even see anything when the contact happens? The video where they slowed down the impact?

I'm just amazed that all the people that were all about no speculation a week ago have changed their tunes.

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The term "violent" is relative. I'm not going to argue your definition vs. mine.


That's fine, but don't tell me there is anything clear in that video to bring you to that conclusion.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 4/19/16 at 11:12 am to
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he got out extremely fast.


With a gun in hand. Dude was intent on violence.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56472 posts
Posted on 4/19/16 at 11:33 am to
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Thew video where you can't even see anything when the contact happens? The video where they slowed down the impact?



the linked video. As I mentioned in my post, I think it's clear enough to determine a couple of things.


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I'm just amazed that all the people that were all about no speculation a week ago have changed their tunes.



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That's fine, but don't tell me there is anything clear in that video to bring you to that conclusion.





...says the guy who adamantly and continuously declared that the Hayes vehicle had no reason to stop when it did before it was rear ended. You said that video was conclusive. You were wrong...very wrong...embarrassingly wrong.


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don't tell me there is anything clear in that video to bring you to that conclusion.


I think your confusion is that you don't understand how to interpret these videos. You've been wrong consistently. This is just another example of that. And, because of your embarrassment, you think no information can be gathered. That's just ridiculous.

A rational person (you are not one) can watch that video and have an opinion on the accident. I'm not saying that it answers every question. But, before seeing the video, I had no idea how hard the vehicles hit. I had no idea if Hayes was just chasing Smith and then Smith slammed on the brakes forcing the accident. I had no idea of Hayes had hit Smith extremely hard with the intent to injure.

Now I know.
This post was edited on 4/19/16 at 11:36 am
Posted by Red Stick Tigress
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Posted on 4/19/16 at 11:40 am to
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What I'm saying is that, IMO, on a scale of 1-10 of rear end collisions, this would be a 3. The original accident was a 1.


I disagree. The original accident didn't appear to cause any damage to either vehicle. I vote it a .5. If it has to be a whole number, I'll give it a 1.

However, I'll give accident #2 a higher number, a 4 or 5, considering 4 surfaces of 3 vehicles were damaged and the rear window of Smith's SUV was blown out on impact.


Posted by Midget Death Squad
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 4/19/16 at 11:47 am to
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Holy shite. What a funny and original response. You're a regular Dane Cook.



I see what you did there. You referenced his not funny response to a not funny "comedian." I approve
Posted by Midget Death Squad
Meme Magic
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That's a hell of a second post. I foresee much future success for you on these boards
Posted by diat150
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Posted on 4/19/16 at 12:16 pm to
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looks deliberate and yeah he was after the driver of that car (Smith). he got out extremely fast. just not a good idea to take the law into your own hands.


from what I can tell smith got out first. hayes didnt have any light colored clothing on.
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