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Walter Grades Cooks Trade A- for Saints, B+ for Pats

Posted on 3/11/17 at 5:21 pm
Posted by blueslover
deeper than deep south
Member since Sep 2007
22792 posts
Posted on 3/11/17 at 5:21 pm
I have to say that despite it being speculated for days now, I'm still shocked that this deal went through. It's kind of crazy that the Patriots will have Brandin Cooks in their offense. I didn't even think they'd be in the market for a receiver because they had Julian Edelman, Chris Hogan, Malcolm Mitchell and maybe Michael Floyd on the roster (plus Rob Gronkowski), but Bill Belichick apparently thought differently.

It's going to be fun to watch Tom Brady have a new weapon like Cooks. He hasn't had a dynamic, downfield threat like Cooks since Randy Moss. It might be instinctive to point out that Cooks could decline because he won't be playing with Drew Brees anymore, until you remember that he'll now be paired with Brady, and there theoretically shouldn't be a drop-off. The price is a bit steep for my blood, but at least New England didn't have to surrender Malcolm Butler.

I like the move for the Patriots, but I think the Saints are the winners of this deal. Cooks made it known that he didn't want to be on the roster anymore, and the Saints have two strong receivers without him in Michael Thomas and Willie Snead. New Orleans now has two first-round selections in a very deep draft, so they can use those picks to improve their woeful defense.

Grade for Patriots - B+
Grade for Saints - A-

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Posted by blueslover
deeper than deep south
Member since Sep 2007
22792 posts
Posted on 3/11/17 at 5:23 pm to
their poll of who won the trade on the same page...


Patriots 55.81% (1,317 votes)

Saints 44.19% (1,043 votes)

Total Votes: 2,360

Posted by DeathValley85
Member since May 2011
17118 posts
Posted on 3/11/17 at 5:31 pm to
A little surprised the vote is so close
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112268 posts
Posted on 3/11/17 at 5:32 pm to
Pats wanted to get younger at WR. Edelman and Dola are in their 30s, hogan is like 28-29 I think. Plus BB just fell in love with Cooks during those joint practices, and when he has his eyes on someone, it's hard to disuade him
This post was edited on 3/11/17 at 5:33 pm
Posted by Rohan Gravy
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2017
18001 posts
Posted on 3/11/17 at 5:33 pm to
Patriots rarely lose....
32nd pick could be considered a 2nd round...
I was hoping for more but maybe the best we could do under the circumstances...
Saints are having an outstanding offseason so far!
Posted by BigPerm30
Member since Aug 2011
25852 posts
Posted on 3/11/17 at 5:34 pm to
Pats A +
Saints F-

Because you know they are going to frick up that pick. History is not in our favor. Thank god for Unger or the Graham post would've been a nightmare.
Posted by LSUZombie
A Cemetery Near You
Member since Apr 2008
28889 posts
Posted on 3/11/17 at 5:43 pm to
quote:

32nd pick could be considered a 2nd round...


Except it's not. It's a 1st round pick that comes with the very important 5th year option. I swear some of you try way too hard to hate on everything with dumb shite like this.
Posted by LSUZombie
A Cemetery Near You
Member since Apr 2008
28889 posts
Posted on 3/11/17 at 5:43 pm to
quote:

History is not in our favor.


I mean, why even draft at all?
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64200 posts
Posted on 3/11/17 at 5:45 pm to
Its like so many were sold on a playboy model for a blind date... who got at the last minute a girl with possibilities and are doing nothing but throwing a fit.

The final judging of this trade has not even begun yet some proclaim judgement before the guy picked has played even one year
Posted by Rand AlThor
Member since Jan 2014
9398 posts
Posted on 3/11/17 at 5:55 pm to
quote:

32nd pick could be considered a 2nd round...


Holy jesus fricking christ of shite I am tired of reading this retarded fricking opinion
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64200 posts
Posted on 3/11/17 at 6:04 pm to
Oh and I would as of today grade the trade Pats A Saints ?.
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72503 posts
Posted on 3/11/17 at 6:05 pm to
quote:

32nd pick could be considered a 2nd round...


and 33rd could be considered 1st round......

and last pick of 7th round could be considered undrafted!

except they are not
Posted by Rand AlThor
Member since Jan 2014
9398 posts
Posted on 3/11/17 at 6:13 pm to
quote:

and 33rd could be considered 1st round......

and last pick of 7th round could be considered undrafted!

except they are not


It's not even that mathematical technicality dude. There is a huge difference between 1st and 2nd round picks - you can keep 1st rounders on their rookie deal for an extra season. Massive difference in today's salary cap era.
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72503 posts
Posted on 3/11/17 at 7:04 pm to
quote:

It's not even that mathematical technicality


it was relative to how he was responding.

quote:

There is a huge difference between 1st and 2nd round picks - you can keep 1st rounders on their rookie deal for an extra season. Massive difference in today's salary cap era.


yeah no shite, you think he understood that?
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
29886 posts
Posted on 3/11/17 at 7:12 pm to
quote:

sold on a playboy model for a blind date


well when you are expecting to see a playboy model for your blind date and rosie odonnel shows up instead, ya you wanna puke over how screwed the deal you got is and want it to just be a bad dream lol
This post was edited on 3/11/17 at 7:13 pm
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64200 posts
Posted on 3/11/17 at 7:23 pm to
By "rosie odonnel" you mean you know for a fact the player we may get at 32 is a bust then your analogy is correct of course.
Posted by Bayou
CenLA
Member since Feb 2005
36775 posts
Posted on 3/11/17 at 8:23 pm to
BC will be no more in Boston than he was in NOLA
Posted by BTRDD
Member since Jun 2009
3391 posts
Posted on 3/12/17 at 9:30 am to
How can you give a grade on this until you see what the Saints get with the 32nd pick. Loomis better hit a f'en home run on this.
Posted by CBandits82
Lurker since May 2008
Member since May 2012
54039 posts
Posted on 3/12/17 at 9:41 am to
We have to draft well for this deal to work, which history shows is absolutely not going to happen.

We got fleeced.
Posted by Split2874
Mandeville
Member since Jul 2012
2437 posts
Posted on 3/12/17 at 10:14 am to
I don't get the hate. How many receivers has drew made into stars.... we have lost a few good wr and drew just keeps rolling.

Cooks is good but does not want to be here so they go rid of him.

We will be fine.
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