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Underhill: Evaluating problem areas in the saints Pass D

Posted on 1/21/16 at 6:56 am
Posted by LosLobos111
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Posted on 1/21/16 at 6:56 am
Posted by oncealurker
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Posted on 1/21/16 at 7:02 am to
#1. Brandon. Browner.
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 1/21/16 at 7:52 am to
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#1. Brandon. Browner.


Actually, wrong. Losing Keenan Lewis was our biggest problem. And losing Breaux for however long we did. And Swann. and PJ Williams never playing. And Byrd not being healthy until what, 6 games in? No Raphael Bush.

Had we had Lewis and Breaux as our #1 and #2, Browner doesn't get nearly the flak he did this year trying to be our top guy.
This post was edited on 1/21/16 at 7:54 am
Posted by The Sad Banana
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Posted on 1/21/16 at 7:53 am to
Hm. Upvote.
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 1/21/16 at 7:56 am to
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So while there are issues in the secondary, there at least appear to be internal options for improvement. The linebackers’ path out of the weeds isn’t as clear.


There is a path I will build myself to the retirement home.


Posted by oncealurker
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Posted on 1/21/16 at 8:26 am to
I don't disagree. Browner had to play as a result of your reason. But wow, I had no idea that Browner gave up 893 yards on his own this year. That's ridiculous
Posted by partywiththelombardi
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 1/21/16 at 9:14 am to
Thats not including penalty yardage either.

21 accepted penalties for 207 yards according to PFF
When targeted directly Browner allowed a QBR of 120.1
PFF also rated him the worst CB in football this year with a -40.6

That is practically ProBowl production being started against your team by having Browner in your lineup. Downside is Breaux|Lewis when available were covering the no.1 options.
This post was edited on 1/21/16 at 9:43 am
Posted by Laaz2750
Los Angeles
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 1/21/16 at 11:56 am to
They should lock one of the secondary coaches in a room with a pencil, an uncomfortable chair, and a thousand legal pads and tell him he's not allowed to come out until he comes up with a way to stop that brush-off pick play that went for like 457 TD's against us in the red zone this season.

Just cut a doggie door into the office door and slide his food in three times a day.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
16418 posts
Posted on 1/21/16 at 12:49 pm to
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21 accepted penalties for 207 yards according to PFF


I'd be curious to know how many TDs did he save with some of his holds/PIs. And, how many additional yards did the team give up bc he was called for a defensive penalty on 3rd down after we already would have had the stop.
Posted by JustinT37
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 1/21/16 at 2:49 pm to
Dude, we never had a pass rush. Cam Jordan barely reached 10 sacks, other than him no pass rush ever. Get a pass rush, guarantee you our secondary plays better.
This post was edited on 1/21/16 at 2:50 pm
Posted by BRL79
Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 1/21/16 at 7:56 pm to
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Dude, we never had a pass rush. Cam Jordan barely reached 10 sacks, other than him no pass rush ever. Get a pass rush, guarantee you our secondary plays better.

Breaux played with the same pass rush that Browner did.
Posted by Thurber
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Posted on 1/21/16 at 9:31 pm to
Posted by BadTyreke
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 1/21/16 at 10:41 pm to
QBR only goes up to 100 baw. I think it's QB Rating that you are looking for.
Posted by partywiththelombardi
Member since May 2012
11590 posts
Posted on 1/22/16 at 9:41 am to
I dont use ESPN stats...QB Rating is the only QBR metric.
Posted by JustinT37
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 1/23/16 at 1:13 am to
Breaux also played the same time Browner did...why pass to his side when you can pass to Browners! I'm not saying Browner is better than Breaux. All I'm saying is we need a pass rush, before anything else!
Posted by Brandincookem
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 1/23/16 at 1:29 am to
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why pass to his side when you can pass to Browners!



Becuase you have a less than 50% chance of completing the pass and there's also a 22% chance (highest in the NFL) he tips or intercepts that ball.




He will be a terror with some sort of pass rush
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