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re: To the "we shouldve signed Baker Crowd"
Posted on 2/2/24 at 10:06 am to St Augustine
Posted on 2/2/24 at 10:06 am to St Augustine
Ok, point out how Carr was worse.
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Posted on 2/2/24 at 10:06 am to BlacknGold
That's certainly apparent
Posted on 2/2/24 at 10:08 am to St Augustine
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But I’m so glad we’re pushing Carr’s money into the future for average play and shitty leadership.
how about you just get used to starting qb monies getting restructured in such ways. it is what it is. its the most important position on the team. unless you have a rookie, cap games will be at play. The bigger issue is getting out from underneath other players and contracts and resetting the rest of the cap picture. Each year, we're getting a little bit better and better.
Posted on 2/2/24 at 10:16 am to Alt26
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And Tampa didn't just make the playoffs. They actually won a game and were, relatively, competitive in the second game. I don't know if the Saints beat even the spiraling Eagles.
we drug our nuts all over TB and would’ve done the same to the Eagles
Posted on 2/2/24 at 10:25 am to Chalkywhite84
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No good team is going to just drop a qb that got them into the playoffs.
And somehow people will be scratching their heads in a couple years wondering why that team sucks
Posted on 2/2/24 at 10:26 am to BlacknGold
We should have. And we should draft a QB early after.
Posted on 2/2/24 at 10:29 am to Chad504boy
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Each year, we're getting a little bit better and better.
32nd in cap space in 2024. A new Saints record. We are already last in cap space for 2025 and its about to blow up even further. I can't take much more "getting a little bit better"
Posted on 2/2/24 at 10:42 am to msstate7
In some areas Carr was better. In some he was worse. So, like I said, the stats were roughly the same. The difference is the Saints paid about $30M for the same (or SLIGHTLY better) production than what Tampa paid $6M for. And Tampa has the flexibility to walk away from the deal if they don't think the production was all that noteworthy, and/or they don't think the new salary demands are worth it. The Saints are stuck with Carr for at least a few more years.
TB may refuse to meet Mayfield's demands and suck next season. But at least that would put them in position to draft a top QB prospect. The Saints on the other hand appear to be content to remain in purgatory with Carr. Not bad enough to be in position to find a young QB of the future. Not good enough to achieve anything of note with a QB they are paying roughly the same as Josh Allen.
TB may refuse to meet Mayfield's demands and suck next season. But at least that would put them in position to draft a top QB prospect. The Saints on the other hand appear to be content to remain in purgatory with Carr. Not bad enough to be in position to find a young QB of the future. Not good enough to achieve anything of note with a QB they are paying roughly the same as Josh Allen.
Posted on 2/2/24 at 10:46 am to Alt26
I fail to see how this pertains to my post that Carr had same record and better stats. If you're judging qbs, QBR and passer rating are the gold standard; Carr was better in both.
Posted on 2/2/24 at 11:09 am to Chalkywhite84
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No good team is going to just drop a qb that got them into the playoffs.
The Vikings did that after getting to the NFCCG
* Understandable if as a Saints fans you blocked Case Keenum as Vikings QB out of your mind
Posted on 2/2/24 at 11:20 am to BlacknGold
Good story.
We could’ve paid him, or received premier compensatory picks for not signing him.
Either way, it would’ve been way better than signing Carrbage.
We could’ve paid him, or received premier compensatory picks for not signing him.
Either way, it would’ve been way better than signing Carrbage.
Posted on 2/2/24 at 11:22 am to SlowFlowPro
I just don’t get why some of you are creating fantasy scenarios in your head to get upset about. You absolutely can disagree with the goal and direction of the franchise, but it’s blatantly obvious the mandate at whatever level is to be as competitive as possible every year, at the expense of the long term future. And roster and cap decisions the team makes support that goal. That’s just how it is.
Payton’s first year, we didn’t have a QB, we threw a bunch of money at an injured, not yet elite Drew Brees. That one just happened to work out, there isn’t any genius or anything behind it.
Now if Carr was an unquestionable, total disaster this year it would be interesting to see what they would’ve done.
Payton’s first year, we didn’t have a QB, we threw a bunch of money at an injured, not yet elite Drew Brees. That one just happened to work out, there isn’t any genius or anything behind it.
Now if Carr was an unquestionable, total disaster this year it would be interesting to see what they would’ve done.
This post was edited on 2/2/24 at 11:27 am
Posted on 2/2/24 at 11:30 am to NOSA
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but it’s blatantly obvious the mandate at whatever level is to be as competitive as possible every year
That level is mediocre.
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And roster and cap decisions the team makes support that goal.
The problem is we'd be in the same position, or slightly better, by making better decisions. Like signing guys like Baker or Dalton to short-term deals.
Carr is a mediocre QB who will lead us to the same mediocrity for a lot more money. In what world is that good decision-making?
Posted on 2/2/24 at 11:32 am to NOSA
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Now if Carr was an unquestionable, total disaster this year it would be interesting to see what they would’ve done.
Nothing. His contract tells us that.
Posted on 2/2/24 at 11:51 am to Townedrunkard
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Been saying for years to sign Bsker Bridgewater or Minshew to a cheap one year prove it deals. It’s the only way to get out of this mess Loomis created. Instead he goes in the hole even deeper with Carr
The possible other side of this conversation. They did that for 2 years with Winston & Dalton and didn't like the results; so they took a shot at Carr.
Also, Loomis does view the current cap structure as a mess; it's just part of the process
Posted on 2/2/24 at 12:09 pm to Weekend Warrior79
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The possible other side of this conversation. They did that for 2 years with Winston & Dalton and didn't like the results; so they took a shot at Carr.
And ended up in the same situation.
Posted on 2/2/24 at 12:28 pm to SlowFlowPro
I didn't say it worked , just that they took a shot.
Could you imagine where we'd be if they were able to land Watson. Don't know what our final offer was before Clev came in with their ridiculous deal, but my understanding is it was for more than Carr's and Watson can't stay healthy.
, just that they took a shot. Could you imagine where we'd be if they were able to land Watson. Don't know what our final offer was before Clev came in with their ridiculous deal, but my understanding is it was for more than Carr's and Watson can't stay healthy.
Posted on 2/2/24 at 12:34 pm to Weekend Warrior79
Yeah Watson would have doomed us for so long, my lord.
Posted on 2/2/24 at 3:16 pm to BlacknGold
So he’d be cheaper AND younger than Carr? Got it.
Posted on 2/2/24 at 3:27 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Find another retread for a year.
And? Pretending like you dumbfricks didnt predict he would get no more that $25million a year in the other thread didnt occur I see.
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