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re: So Brees is the NFL leader in yards, TDs, comp%; is 13-3, yet isnt the MVP?

Posted on 1/1/12 at 3:23 pm to
Posted by Deathrider
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 1/1/12 at 3:23 pm to
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45:6. Enough said.


Both threw interceptions. As an example from recent history, Brett Favre threw less interceptions than Manning or Brees in 2009. Did he win the MVP?
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 1/1/12 at 3:24 pm to
He also leads the nfl in losses to the rams.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 1/1/12 at 3:25 pm to
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Rodgers has 10 total turnovers and Drew has 13.
Pretty sure this is not accurate.

Rodgers has 6 turnovers.
Posted by Deathrider
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 1/1/12 at 3:28 pm to
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Pretty sure this is not accurate.

Rodgers has 6 turnovers.



Look up his fumbles lost. That doesn't get calculated in passer rating for a good reason, but a lost fumble is still a turnover.
Posted by Cam71090
Member since Mar 2010
1486 posts
Posted on 1/1/12 at 3:28 pm to
he didnt lose any fumbles
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110822 posts
Posted on 1/1/12 at 3:34 pm to
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Look up his fumbles lost


he didn't lose any
This post was edited on 1/1/12 at 3:34 pm
Posted by Cam71090
Member since Mar 2010
1486 posts
Posted on 1/1/12 at 3:36 pm to
Anyway, why is Td to Int ratio the only criteria. Because thats the only one Rodgers is leading in?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110822 posts
Posted on 1/1/12 at 3:37 pm to
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why is Td to Int ratio the only criteria


If you wanna know the real, best numbers to rate a QB on, there's 3:

TD%
INT%
Yards per attempt
Posted by Cam71090
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 1/1/12 at 3:40 pm to
How about the fact the Flynn kills it as a starter. Doesnt that diminish the value of Rodgers.?
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 1/1/12 at 3:41 pm to
More INTs than Rodgers.


Get over it.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110822 posts
Posted on 1/1/12 at 3:41 pm to
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How about the fact the Flynn kills it as a starter. Doesnt that diminish the value of Rodgers.?
Then why are we arguing Rodgers vs Brees, it should go to Manning if things like that really make a difference.

Posted by Cam71090
Member since Mar 2010
1486 posts
Posted on 1/1/12 at 3:43 pm to
Because you are picking which criteria to use. Youre just making it up? Favre should have won it in 2009 if it was because of that.
Posted by LSUFreek
Greater New Orleans
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 1/1/12 at 3:45 pm to
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How about the fact the Flynn kills it as a starter. Doesnt that diminish the value of Rodgers.?


Exactly.

Flynn now has 6 TD's in the game. Even a backup in GB's offense can put up great numbers.

All these supposed Saints fans sucking Rodgers dick can frick off. No one has had a year like Brees in the history of the NFL.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110822 posts
Posted on 1/1/12 at 3:46 pm to
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Because you are picking which criteria to use
Production/efficiency, what a CRAZY notion of me to use that as my criteria.

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Youre just making it up?
Every stat I posted was correct to my knowledge, I made nothing up.

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Favre should have won it in 2009 if it was because of that.

No, because the 3 criteria I posted that were the best indicators, Favre led in only 1 of them I am fairly certain.
Posted by Deathrider
Member since Aug 2010
3675 posts
Posted on 1/1/12 at 3:46 pm to
Not only that, but Flynn led that team to a win against a playoff team. That should not be overlooked, but it will.
Posted by Cam71090
Member since Mar 2010
1486 posts
Posted on 1/1/12 at 3:47 pm to
The long and short of it is that Rodgers was crowned in like week 5. As long as he didnt lose the award from then on it was his. No one could win it, no matter what they did. This has been proved seeing as how Brees has done EVERYTHING.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110822 posts
Posted on 1/1/12 at 3:47 pm to
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ll these supposed Saints fans sucking Rodgers dick can frick off
YOu sound like a really unbiased observer.
Posted by Froman
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2007
36214 posts
Posted on 1/1/12 at 3:48 pm to
The more INTs thing is such a bad argument, but the only one the Rodgers supporters have.
Posted by Deathrider
Member since Aug 2010
3675 posts
Posted on 1/1/12 at 3:49 pm to
This is absolutely true. We forget how powerful the media is. Brees just had one of the greatest seasons a quarterback has ever had in the history of the NFL. From the historical context, his 2011 season will be talked about much longer than the one Rodgers had even if Brees does not win the MVP. The fact that he will not win the MVP is absolutely pathetic once historical context is considered.
Posted by Cam71090
Member since Mar 2010
1486 posts
Posted on 1/1/12 at 3:50 pm to
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Every stat I posted was correct to my knowledge, I made nothing up.



See now you are just trying to get a rise out of people. I was clearly saying that you are making up the criteria, not the stats.
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